1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Jalen Green Apology Form

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DreamR, Jan 23, 2023.

  1. Roomba

    Roomba Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2017
    Messages:
    3,922
    Likes Received:
    14,022
    There are people who put their ego above the team.

    There are people that only follow the team for a particular player.

    That's cool, but at the end of the day all we should want is for the Rockets to be the best they can be--and I believe the majority of us do want that. Frustration is a given when we follow a young, developing team like this. But these moments of joy while watching our young guys do well are awesome!
     
    TheJet, marinara and BaselineFade like this.
  2. fchowd0311

    fchowd0311 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2010
    Messages:
    47,804
    Likes Received:
    36,710
    What about the game before the first Min game?
     
  3. fchowd0311

    fchowd0311 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2010
    Messages:
    47,804
    Likes Received:
    36,710
    The good and great ones throughout league history have mostly come to the league at age 21 or older. Guys like Lebron and Luka have spoiled people and people now want instant gratification with their high lottery picks who are 19-20 year olds to instantly be superstars.

    Guys like Garnett, Kobe, TMac, the earlier ones who joined at 18-19 took multiple year before people thought they were star level players.
     
  4. JayZ750

    JayZ750 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    May 16, 2000
    Messages:
    25,275
    Likes Received:
    13,000
    If you're telling me all we need from JG for these kinds of performances is a bit of, idk, effort...

    He should be filling out the apology form for me and all other Rockets fans.

    I don't care much about the scoring. Re-watching a lot of his bucked, his shot was on. We KNOW this won't be the case every game - so far in his career, won't be the case at least half if not more of the games - what will he do when that's the case? Hopefully the EFFORT, HUSTLE, lack of boneheaded turnovers is what stays.
     
  5. roslolian

    roslolian Member

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2008
    Messages:
    24,503
    Likes Received:
    14,762
    So to convince you Green needs to average 41 pts every game? Lol just ridiculous.

    Green is a kid he wont be consistent because majority of kids rarely are. Lets talk 5 yrs down the road which is when players usually break out and reach their prime. If you want examples look at Brandon Ingram, Lonzo Ball and Lauri Markannen.

    The only players who break out and perform great from Day 1 are generational talents. Even James Harden, Zach Lavine and Bradley Beal werent superstars at age 20.
     
    TheRedRanger and fchowd0311 like this.
  6. fchowd0311

    fchowd0311 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2010
    Messages:
    47,804
    Likes Received:
    36,710
    In both his 40 pt games this season, less than half his shots were three point makes. There is even an info graphic somewhere here someone recently posted that Green is one of the league leaders in self generated at the rim shots. Meaning he gets to the paint a lot. To say his good scoring games are him just being hot is a reductive lol at his games.
     
    Believe It! and roslolian like this.
  7. Os Trigonum

    Os Trigonum Contributing Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 2, 2014
    Messages:
    72,937
    Likes Received:
    111,133
    the good news is I don't think we have very many EGO Only Fans
     
    Roomba and fchowd0311 like this.
  8. Landry's Tooth

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2020
    Messages:
    3,807
    Likes Received:
    2,158

    Jalen in our wins:
    28.5 points
    51.7% fg
    41.1% 3pt
    64.6% ts%
    4.5 assists
    4.6 rebounds
    18.81 fga

    Jalen in our losses:
    20.1 points
    38.2% fg
    30.5% 3pt
    50.0% ts
    3.3 assists
    4.1 rebounds
    17.65 fga


    I think Jalen is the primary reason we win or lose which is why we lose so much...

    If he could consistently be something in between we might see some improvement...
     
    Y2JT and xaos like this.
  9. Hemingway

    Hemingway Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2016
    Messages:
    6,122
    Likes Received:
    8,126
    If he meets those numbers he will be in Curry territory. That’s pretty hard on a 20 year old second year player. Volume of 3 pters does come into the equation. If he takes 7 or more at 40% that is elite territory and will make his drives more effective and will end up on the FT line a lot more. This is what I expect in a year or two, but my goodness that’s a really high bar for 1/2 way through his 2nd year at age 20. Consistent defensive effort and improved defensive technique is where he should be concentrating. The offense will obviously come as he matures.
     
  10. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2008
    Messages:
    46,832
    Likes Received:
    18,550
    I don’t care. It’s about consistency and discipline.
     
    B-Bob and clutchdabear like this.
  11. fchowd0311

    fchowd0311 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2010
    Messages:
    47,804
    Likes Received:
    36,710
    That is an absolute absurd win/loss splits.

    I don't know what it says exactly but dear lord. Dude has been a MVP level player in wins and JR Smith is losses.
     
  12. Verbal Christ

    Verbal Christ Member

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2009
    Messages:
    17,611
    Likes Received:
    27,244
  13. Rokman

    Rokman Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2008
    Messages:
    4,778
    Likes Received:
    4,839
    Well, this thread is asking people to apologize for being critical of his game sense he had 2 good games out of the last 3 as if that just wipes away everything. I disagree that anyone should be making claims that anyone should be apologizing for watching the game and the box score, seeing the obvious and taking a shot at his performance. It has not been good. That's just facts. By NBA average standards he's under achieving.
     
  14. Rokman

    Rokman Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2008
    Messages:
    4,778
    Likes Received:
    4,839
    Now count the wins and losses. That will tell you how he's been playing this year. Do the Defensive numbers and you will see the apologies erased.
     
  15. fchowd0311

    fchowd0311 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2010
    Messages:
    47,804
    Likes Received:
    36,710
    One would say "historically" underachieving:

    https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/mo...mes has scored the,player, with 29.3 per game.
     
  16. Pistol Pete

    Pistol Pete Contributing Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 30, 2002
    Messages:
    3,944
    Likes Received:
    2,148
    Idiots did.
     
  17. fchowd0311

    fchowd0311 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2010
    Messages:
    47,804
    Likes Received:
    36,710
    Is he like in his prime and we don't expect much more improvement out of him?

    I know he's nearing that geriatric stage with his 21st birthday coming up next month.
     
  18. JayZ750

    JayZ750 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    May 16, 2000
    Messages:
    25,275
    Likes Received:
    13,000
    I literally re-watched all his makes last night.

    He had a solid amount of mid-range makes. That's GREAT!! He also had 6 threes and 6 fts. He basically was a 3 level scorer last night and efficient in all areas.

    It's also worth noting, typically he is a very inefficient mid-range shooter. But last night he had 2 one-handed FT-line esque floaters, multiple non-paint mid-range makes, etc.

    I think his mid-range efficiency is a function of his decision making and the overall offense being run last night, in addition to whether he's just on.

    The CLEAR differentiator in the offense last night wasn't even Jalen's makes. I mean it WAS, but the ??? is why was he on? Just hot? Or something more. I WANT to believe it was something more, and that something specifically being the fact that so much of his action was coming off Alpi DHOs or plays with motion. Yes, he had some amazing individual one on one moves, too... but there was so much more action where he's not having to "think" as much and instead is just read and react.

     
    Believe It!, Plowman and daywalker02 like this.
  19. daywalker02

    daywalker02 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2006
    Messages:
    89,874
    Likes Received:
    43,284
    Benjamin Button was born old. :D
     
  20. Tuckmose

    Tuckmose Member

    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2022
    Messages:
    1,848
    Likes Received:
    3,026
    Believe It! and fchowd0311 like this.

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now