Context is not “apologizing,” you maniac. When a young player significantly increases his 3 point volume AND his percentage ticks up, that’s a good thing. What crazy is people like you making up your minds about a 22 year old and stubbornly refusing to participate in analysis.
It's always been consistency for Jalen. I feel like I've written this same exact post more than once over the years. I think his "superstar" games are getting better. The ceiling is getting higher, and I think it has every year. If you had never watched Jalen before, and I just showed you those games, you would think this guy was in the MVP conversation. But that's never been the issue, the issue has always been the other games. Every player in the league has good games, decent games, and bad games. Jalens "good games" are MVP caliber, not a lot of players can say that. But he has way too few of them, he has way too many decent games, and way way way too many bad games. I really really want him to put it together and cut those games way down. And I thought he finally turned the corner when this season started and he came out hot. But now it looks like it's basically the same as last year, and that really sucks. I don't know that I've ever seen a player like this before.
I'll say this about both Jalen *and* Jabari Smith...they need more time. Both of them do. As critical as I've been of Jalen (no he hasn't turned the corner, not sure he ever will) in the past and through this season, he is much improved on defense. Him and Jabari both are. And I do feel like that effort is causing issues on their offense. If Jalen just Luka'ed every defensive possession, he'd have much more energy to maybe pump up his numbers. But then he's just Damian Lillard. They both need more time. We have Jalen for 3 seasons and his contract is tradeable in two. He does have an offensive gravity that the defense has to respect and helps open up things for other players. Jalen has been consistently inconsistent on offense. To a maddening level. But he's also adjusting to learning to play team defense for the first time in his life. I'll probably still get frustrated with his inconsistent play but his defensive improvements have made me put a pause on my expectations of him offensively. If end of the year or into next year he's still not improved then yeah....we need to probably pivot.
DD has a giant bias against Jalen. Always has. Meanwhile his hero KPJ is shooting 19% from 3 with the Clippers and probably just "needs time to adjust to a new team".
So since we are ride or die with Jalen for the foreseeable future, how can we fix the shot? I’m assuming he’s been in the gym with a shooting coach. People were saying the shooting form looked better earlier in the season but I didn’t notice that. I’ve never thought Jalen’s shot looked good. Is there something correctable in Jalen’s shooting form that could get him into that 35%-36% 3-pt range with consistency? What are folks seeing?
Yeah. I can’t believe the biggest KPJ homer has the nerve to claim I’m “apologizing” for a player. He literally downplayed KPJ’s conviction.
That is a novel question you ask - how can we fix it? I thought people just came here to complain. Nice to see someone trying to figure out how to make it work - kudos! I've been thinking about this as well. I watched all the shots from the last 5 games and I'm definitely not a shooting coach but I had a few takeaways about his form: - it feels like his shot form is very inconsistent - when he is playing fast, it looks one way, when he is trying to slow down and play with pace it looks like another. Generally speaking though his fast shot is the thing we see the most - the one I reference in the next bullet point - his normal rhythm shot is trying to do the Jordan thing with the exaggerated wrist flick but he snaps his wrist too much - the ball comes out a little too flat as a result and can be prone to being slightly off center but even more so just too flat so the misses either clank at the front of the rim or go well past the hoop and hit the other side of the backboard if he is shooting at an angle - in short, they look like super ugly misses - he seems sensitive to where he gets the ball in catch and shoots - the mechanics change if he gets the ball high vs low/in body vs outside his body. - I think those "tough shots" he is known to hit are where he puts more "touch" and deliberately goes for more arc. When he thinks he is going to get blocked he has a much higher release point...and the ball tends to go in more. - he also has to just rid himself of the 18-24 second screen to an open 3 shot - he never makes them and teams always get them. That early into the shot clock - it's just a bad shot even if you are open because you can't hit them. Udoka should just tell him he's going to take him out if he sees that. I think my non expert opinion there would be to tell Jalen to shoot the same way every time even if it means he gets blocked on some shots. Utilize that new shot quality chart in the practice facility to keep him honest - aim for consistency every time. He just seems like he adapts his shot form for the situation and the results are inconsistent as a result. He needs more air under the ball. The goal for Jalen in game for immediate feedback is that when he misses the ball, he gets a high bounce off the rim rather than the very fast one he currently gets his flat shot - that's the proof of him getting more air under the shot.
Yes it has. He's up to .344 from .332 last season. I wouldn't surprise me if he ended up .35+ on much higher volume.
His percentages would tick up way higher if he had the common sense to stop jacking them up when he is off.
This thread needed a bump. lol. yeah, don’t believe your lying eyes…or the numbers (and I don’t mean the $36 mil per number)…everyone is just biased against Jalen. Can’t wait for another 5-game sample size premature apology thread.
HE Isn't GOOD, he is who he is....4th year in the NBA, 5th as a fully professional player and he still isn't good at shooting. He might be better in a system that just runs and guns - and thus we need to move on from him, he is a bust as a number 2 pick but is not a bust as an NBA player....just not going to be a superstar. DD
Sorry, don't you mean .307, which is not an uptick. https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4437244/jalen-green DD
Are you daft? I wasn't wrong when I posted that. He's cratered since then. Hopefully he'll recover. How's your beloved KPJ doing?
I just don't see anyone making a case for more minutes behind him as a guard. I was high on Cam like you last season but he's been pretty disappointing to start this season, and it's just not credible to say that he's made the case that Jalen is expendable now. Hopefully that changes as the season progresses. The same can probably be said (even though its even earlier) with Reed who is looking a little Troy Daniels like instead of the next Steve Nash like we were led to believe with his super fans. Nothing wrong with a young better defensive Troy Daniels, but still... he doesn't look like a Jalen Green obvious upgrade. Look the fact is Jalen Green is good... but not consistently really good, and rarely great. He isn't a superstar by NBA standards of other stars from a data perspective, but he is really really popular with young NBA fans, and that does mean a little bit. It is a business in the end. So until there is an obvious upgrade I don't see what the fuss is about to trade him anytime soon. We've already extended him so there's no upcoming pay day we have to be concerned about. It is what it is, and really it's an indictment on other guys for not taking that step to earn minutes over Jalen and FVV (who has also been sort of frustrating this season so far as well).
[cough]Holiday [cough cough] Though, Rockets could also go Amen as the starting SG as well. If the Rockets did this, their defense would likely rank the best in decades. Edit: Assuming the Terror Twins are kept together and remove the two weakest links in the starting lineup.
