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Jake Meyers appears to be the real deal

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Yordan The Great, Aug 15, 2021.

  1. NIKEstrad

    NIKEstrad Contributing Member
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    He look ok.
     
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  2. Yordan The Great

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    He has a chance to really make his mark in a few minutes…
     
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    As hard as it is to see Springer in another uni, CF has not been a weakness.

    So we can add not handing out egregious contracts to that list.
     
  5. rockets1995

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    The Front Office is still the same, just James Click was hired from Tampa Bay to be promoted to General Manager.

    The Astros Front Office are amazing in finding excellent talent in the Minors.

    Even trading for Minor Leaguers.
    Yordan Alvarez is a huge example.
    Probably the best hitter in Baseball.
     
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    Meyers is looking solid AF.
     
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    10 players that can reach .800+Ops on the roster. I'm including Alejandro. It's clear that he was hamstringed with the injury prior to it snapping.
    Wish there was a way we could transplant Chazzie's hitting into Maldonado but that's playing god and getting greedy.
     
  8. Snake Diggit

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    Yep, Meyers/McCormick breaking out is huge. Lengthens the lineup tremendously, provides insurance for injury prone players in Brantley and Alvarez, and adds 2 potential core cost-controlled pieces for 6 more seasons.

    Without spending a dime in free agency, this would be the 2022 opening day lineup next season by 2021 wRC+ (Note: wRC+ of 100 is an average hitter, 120 is an excellent hitter, 140+ is an elite superstar level hitter):

    2B Altuve 133
    LF Brantley 134
    3B Bregman 120
    DH Alvarez 145
    1B Gurriel 137
    RF Tucker 133
    SS Diaz 130
    CF Meyers 170
    C Maldonado 71
    Bench: McCormick 116, Castro 96, De Goti 128, Jones 84

    That is a STACKED roster (and of course they will very very likely upgrade from Alex De Goti/Robel Garcia).
     
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    There's been quite a lot of turnover in the FO and scouting department over the years.
     
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  10. jim1961

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    Astros: should Jake Meyers start in CF when Kyle Tucker returns?
    https://climbingtalshill.com/2021/08/23/astros-jake-meyers-start-cf-kyle-tucker-returns/

    I would say no. But, I would insert Meyers into the lineup as often as possible via DH and/or DHing Brantley or Chas on occasion. I don't want to hurry Meyers too much and I wouldn't want to affect Chas's ego by benching him. But Meyers needs reps and AB's if we are to get comfortable with him playing important playoff minutes.
     
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    The Astros did right by moving Straw to bring up Myers. Straw had better value as a super sub / pinch runner than as a mediocre every day center fielder.
     
  12. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    Until proven otherwise, Chas is a great 4th outfielder (better than Straw) but Meyers has shown that he deserves to be the primary starter. It's a good problem to have.
     
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    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    The funny thing is that Chas and Meyers are faster by all metrics.

    Edit:

    Meyers is faster. Chas is slightly slower but a better outfielder.
     
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    By what metrics?
     
  15. xcrunner51

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    Straw is already at 3.0 fWAR and has hit for a 135 wRC+ with Cleveland. If y'all wanna argue that Meyers can provide equal or better future production, that's perfectly reasonable but Straw is having a very good first full ML season.
     
  16. jim1961

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    Meyers has 44 ab's.
     
  17. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    Oops, I read the data wrong posted earlier in this thread. Myers is faster, Chas is slightly slower. From the eye test Chas has better instincts in in CF.

    Sprint speed:
    Meyers: 29.5 ft/sec (18th in MLB)
    McCormick: 28.9 ft/sec (49th in MLB)
    Straw: 29.2 ft/sec (27th in MLB)
     
  18. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    But he's done enough during those at bats and in the outfield to earn more playing time. His OPS is near 1000
     
  19. jim1961

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    I am glad someone else noticed what Straw is doing in Cleveland.
     
  20. jim1961

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    I agree fully. But more playing time doesn't necessary equate to making him your every day starter. Next year? Most likely yes.
     

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