I think OG is great, but you are paying him a max contract and in return sending two starters (one that is only 22 years old and getting better) and older version of OG and then adding the #10 pick. It’s only worth it if you already have a plan in place for another starting PF that can shoot and play defense better than Jabari, maybe John Collins if healthy. I love Jabari and think he should be considered a core player, but a starting line-up of Amen, Jalen, OG, Collins and Sengun would be better balanced. Amen is not a forward!
Ultimately we see Ime's approach to Jabari differently. You think Ime probably knows how to use Jabari best seeing as he actually sees him every day in a way we don't. I think that Ime largely ignores the offensive side of the ball in favor of rolling the ball out there to players who can self generate their own offense. Jabari isn't this and as such gets relegated to the bench in favor of better on ball creators but worse shooters. The team construct sucks and *clapclapplaydefenseharderrawrrr* is just going to get us the same result next season. If you want to see our ceiling with that way of approaching our offense take a look at the Knicks with Tom Thibodeaux. The Thunder brought in Alex Caruso who is I guess their Dillon Brooks or FVV and he takes a back seat to Cason Wallace and Chet Holmgren (who isn't a wildly better dribbler than Jabari either). We'll see next year but I'm anticipating more "FVV strangle the offense down to a snails pace for Jalen Green or Sengun to take a bad contested shot" stuff again. Then gaslighting about how Jalen has improved marginally at **** that doesn't matter. Tari and Dillon will have back breaking 3 point fouls again but they're irritants on defense so "upside down smiley face lulz". If we start FVV/Dillon/Jalen again I'm gonna pop a blood vessel.
I believe the issue is more so talent and youth than offensive scheming by the coaching staff. Tari is the oldest of our youthful core at 24 which includes 7 draft picks from the rebuild. We need to consolidate some players and get an offensive playmaker to get to the next level.
If Bari is pushing for an extension at $30mil or in the high $20’s I’m okay trading him away. But we should be able to lock Tari up for $20 mil per. Get it done.
Great question that the Rockets will need to figure out this offseason. But I’m just not sure what posters are watching when they think this roster is capable of running anything other than a simple offense.
I think we just let him go to RFA. If he plays well enough to command 30m then we pay him that. His play up to this point has not been equitable to 30m, but he also has been held back by an offensive design that is poorly designed for him. His potential I think is through the roof and with the right offense I think 30m might become a bargain in years to come. Guys with his length, work ethic, shooting mechanics, and defense do not come along very often. He just turned 22 years old.
I think people are shortchanging. I think hes going to be an All - Star but it has to be in the right system. $25m - $30m is about right
Begrudgingly paying a guy because youre forced to in RFA is bad. It bit the Suns in the ass and they've been shitty ever since. Reminds me of the Franchise Tag in the NFL. If they do this with Jabari he'll just sulk and demand a trade like Ayton did.
Yeah that’s certainly a risk. If it was me, I’d probably just take the chance and extend him for the close to 30m and let it escalate over 3 or 4 years. It’s another reason to jettison FVV. It’s extraordinary to me that fans want to pay FVV 30m or more but are willing to give Jabari away.
High 20's too much for Jabari? I wonder if you've had a look around the league recently. That's a 6'10 guy with a 7'1 wingspan, excellent rebounder at his position, shooter, very good defender, elite lateral quickness for his height. They don't sell those for $20m. Are you envisioning that he never improves his 3PT shot significantly?
I buy Bari continuing to improve. But based on his production over the first 3 yrs, he’s worth about $25. Trey Murphy is at $28 and he’s been better than Bari.
Oh ok, I mean we're talking a $3m difference that's not a big deal. As for Murphy, consider for a moment that he was 21 years old as a rookie (he's turning 25 next week). Jabari just turned 22. I don't think that's a fair comparison. Our starting lineup took a major hit defensively when Brooks started guarding PF's instead of Bari. I think Jabari can guard a PF better than Johnson can too. They play different positions. Jabari is a future PF/C. Johnson is a wing. So different.
A deal structured similar to Jock Landale's is what I'd take if I was Jabari. Basically pay me 3-90 but every year is a player option and if I turn it down I go to UFA. The inverse of what Stone did with Jalen and KPj. I would absolutely not trust this Rockets organization if I were him. An eject button for Jabari. Not for the Rockets. I laugh at the precariousness of the situation with Jabari and how some fans seemingly don't understand how rare he is as a player. Like hes 6-7 or something. Outside of Amen, he is the second most physically gifted player we have.
