I really like Bari's improvement this year and I know he is young, but Maybe Bari will become better than Chet in 3-point shooting, and maybe he will stay healthier, but I don't think he will ever be as good a shot blocker. Happy with Bari though.
I didn't use Markkanen, I just think it's incorrect for people to say he's just a Julius Randle, it doesn't make any sense. Whether or not you would trade Jabari for Lauri is another story, depends on your team's timeline, makeup and salary. I just think people needs to level their expectations on Jabari's improvement as an offensive threat
Jabari has the frame to put on 25 lbs of muscle over the next few years. Chet does not. They are both really good, but I'd rather take my chances on Jabari long-term, although I believe Chet is the better player right now.
The 4 components that make up usage are shots, FTs, assists, and turnovers. So unless you're telling me that Jabari has turned into a playmaker when JG went off the floor, usage here does basically mean his scoring. But in regards to FVV/JG, I didn't mention them because I would think a long time basketball fan would innately understand that ball handling guards are much easier at creating shots (good or bad) than bigs who need to be set up for shots. I thought it's intuitive that players like Jabari "aren't forcing shots" because he's limited in his offensive arsenal, not because he is purposely passing up mediocre shots that are resulting in JG putting up a bad shot.
Chet has a bag and is confident in his slick moves, while Jabari does repetitive stuff which works as well..... I am not saying who is the better player yet but it seems the Thunder have more assets to set up the team for better results over these years. The Key is Jalen Williams going supernova.
Paolo plays the same position as Jabari. Can you name another power forward in history that had Jabari's level of shot creation at 19/20 and went on to create their own shots at a high level. I personally can't think of any. The typical comparison that's thrown out, Chris Bosh, Garnett were creating their own shots off the dribble at a high level or in the post at a way higer level by their second season.
Lamarcus Aldridge is a great example and he wasn't even a pure shooter like Bari coming into the league. He was also drafted at the age of 21 And rockets fans should we well aware of how good he became as a multi year all star and multi 2nd/3rd team all nba appearances
so in JG case, he's creating his own shots yet his efficiency wise is pretty bad at it going on 3 years in. the logic says that's a good thing. Cool
I don't find Jabari and Aldridge to be similar at all. Aldridge came into the league with great footwork in the low with quite a variety of moves at the age of 21. You could dump the ball to him in the low post and he can create offense even at that age He could also reliably take you off the dribble in the high post if you over play his jumper. On the other hand I always thought he was very average on defense and at times lazy.
notice how he came into the league at 21. LA had no 3 pt shot. they spammed his midrange to death once he found something that worked for him. he wasn't taking anyone off the dribble stop it. All he did was keep it simple. Midrage face up or back down midrage. you weren't blocking his shot. sounds familiar bari came into the league at 19. Bari can become an even better version of LA as a true shooter who we are already seeing is deadly in the midrange in his 2nd year jump at 20
Do you even read? In my original post I said the issue is the Rockets issue is that their guards can't create good shots. Where did I say I want our shot creator to be what JG is right now? And again, do you even watch basketball? Cause you're basically arguing something akin to Clint Capela should've been the Rockets star back in the day because he shot 60+% and Harden shot in the ~45%. And then criticize Harden for taking bad shots when Capela dunks were so much more efficient.
do you even read. did i say you wanted our shot creater to be JG. I'm pointing out what doesn't make sense yeah i don't watch basketball. silly me.I've just been around here over a decade just having no idea what the nba is what a stupid reference. Now Bari is basically capela. Oh last time i checked the rockets don't have anything close to a harden on this team. Miss me with this dumb post
They definitely spammed Pick and Pop for him. But they also let him operate in the low post where he had great footwork and strength. It's not just as simple as backing down and midrange. Also LMA is a better mid range shooter than Jabari. I don't think Jabari is making mid ranges at a crazy high percentage this season, he's definitely not as automatic as LMA ever was. I actually believe Jabari can get there in terms of pure shooting equal or greater than LMA, hell he's already shooting 39% from 3 this year. But we are talking shot creation here, the question is how exactly does Jabari make this leap. Low post? he needs way better footwork and strength, High Post? he needs better ball handling and more hops to be a driving threat.
yeah they did that much later in his career as in mid to late 20s. again your self overlooking part that bari is 20 is killing you This is LA at 21 %'s 2P: 50%/ 71% (0-3ft)/ 48% (3-10ft)/31% (10-16ft) / 39% (16ft-3p) This is Jabari at 20 %'2 2P: 55%/ 67% (0-3ft)/ 50% (3-10ft)/ 50% (10-16ft)/ 40% (16ft-3P) your eye test is proven false and bari hasn't even reached 21 yet aka he's actually ahead of the LA curve.
Age definitely should be a consideration. I admit that I don't follow Markkanen very much until he broke out. But he broke out only after he was traded to Utah and that was his 5th season at the age of 25. Before that, his offensive production is only slightly better than what Jabari is doing now. In his first 4 seasons, people could have said that he's just limited and would be a good role player, just like what you are saying about Smith. You don't think there is a good chance that Jabari will have similar offensive production 3 years from now? Don't forget, last year a lot of people thought that he would not even be a decent 3&D player on a good team.
