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Iverson was overrated. His team mateswwere underrated.

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by 2016Champions, Oct 30, 2014.

  1. 2016Champions

    2016Champions Member

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    Iverson has a great story that someone should make a blockbuster movie about, and they should get the director of the Green Mile to direct it. It would be a hit. 15 year old single mother gives birth to a kid in the projects, he grows up hanging around the wrong people and wrongfully gets charged to 15 years in jail at the age of 17. After several months, the governor pulls strings to get Iverson out of jail then Iverson gets recruited to the Hoyas where he tears **** up. 1st round pick of the draft, still involved with the wrong crew while in the league, then meets Larry Brown who becomes like a father figure despite a lot of bumping heads. Then the movie ends with Iverson slaying Goliath in game 1 of the NBA finals. [expletive deleted] awesome. What a movie! However, Iverson's loveable story is part of why it's so easy to overlook the signs he was an overrated NBA player.

    Iversons's efficiency was atrocious, everyone knows that, and the "he took bad shots because his team mates sucked" excuse is a weak excuse. Plenty of 1st options have had bad team mates and scored efficiently ie. Kevin Johnson, young Lebron, Orlando TMac, Raptors Vince Carter, Brandon Roy, young Wade ect.

    The other thing people like to say is "Iverson took a weak team to the finals", but Iverson couldn't even make the playoffs until the Sixers got Theo Ratliff, Aaron Mckie, Matt Geiger, George Lynch, and Tyrone Hill in via trade (they traded away Jerry Stackhouse who was the 3rd overall pick) and free agency in 1999. The Sixers literally went from bottom of the East to third in the East following those acquisitions, so clearly Iverson's team mates got results despite the misleading box score stats.

    The Sixers defense ranked 5th in 99' then 4th in 2000 while their offense ranked 23rd then 26th. Exactly how much is Iverson helping his team if the offense was that bad?

    When Theo Ratliff got injured during the 2001 season, the Sixers traded Ratliff and Tony Kukoc for 4-time defensive player of the year Dikembe Mutombo, and the Sixers topped the Eastern conference with 56 wins, then made it all the way to the Finals where they won game 1 in overtime (btw Kobe sucked this game, he got 15 points with 22 shots and 6 turnovers).

    He has an inspirational story, phenomenal highlights, and his popularity helped revive the NBA from the loss of millions of viewers following the retirement of Michael Jordan. Give him credit where credit is due, just put that all aside when talking about impact. When you look at all the information, all the context, instead of just looking at the points Iverson scored and the results Sixers got, I think it becomes pretty clear that Iverson was indeed overrated.
     
  2. Dhoward12

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    Overrated by who exactly?
     
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    how do people rate him so u feel its overrating? someone claimed him goat?
     
  4. NotChandlerParsons

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    Charles Barkley taking him first overall in their mock draft thing probably... on the whole I don't think he is overrated.
     
  5. rocketseagles07

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    Lmao at Iverson's team being underrated. That team was certified trash on offense
     
  6. NotChandlerParsons

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    Yeah, let's put things in perspective here. Iversons efficiency was not good, but that finals team was #13 on offense and it was all him. He was quite efficient that last year in Denver playing alongside Melo.
     
  7. SamFisher

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    The "iverson is overrated" bus left the station about a decade ago, rendering him underrated. Life is funny that way.
     
  8. JayGoogle

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    He made the playoffs in his 3rd year...sounds about right for most players.
     
  9. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    I don't know about how he's rated but he was one of the most exciting players I ever saw play in person. His quickness and how he flew into the lane against defenders was pretty freaking awesome.
     
  10. Dhoward12

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    Lol, Charles didnt know the rules and everybody else had the wtf face on
     
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    I don't care if Iverson was overrated or not. But I never liked him.
     
  12. CertifiedTroll

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    Chill with the threads man.
     
  13. ghettocheeze

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    OP, are you Tyronne Lue?
     
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  14. 2016Champions

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    The fact Sixers offense ranked 26th seems to get blamed on his team mates, but why is it that there have been many players who have built a good offense with bad team mates? Does anyone have a theory?
     
  15. 2016Champions

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    I will give you that. Iverson became a much better/smarter player towards his late 20s and early 30s.
     
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    <------ Iverson ruled. So did T Mac
     
  17. 2016Champions

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    The biggest problem I have with Iverson fanatics is their complete dismissal of the impact the role players on that Sixers team had. After all the roster changes/additions in 1998, the Sixers went from last in the East to 3rd in the East, and the defense improved from 18th to 5th--there is no way anyone should deny the impact of these role players in light of these facts.
     
  18. 2016Champions

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    I think extremes breed opposing extremes, so fallacies like "Iverson took a bunch of 'scrubs' to the finals" gives birth to fallacies jumping on the other side of the see saw--the Iverson is overrated side. The truth lies in the middle, Iverson's team mates weren't scrubs and Iverson wasn't overrated.
     
  19. don grahamleone

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    Yeah, those guys were awesome.

    Ratliff averaged 7.2 ppg for his career.
    McKie... 7.4 ppg
    Geiger... 2.4 ppg
    Lynch... 6.6 ppg
    Hill... 9.4 ppg

    You do not know what you are talking about. Iverson was amazing and his numbers got a little bit more efficient when he wasn't playing with these powerhouse players you mentioned.

    They played defense and he carried the offense to the NBA Finals. Amazing athlete. Amazing basketball player. Highly underrated.
     
  20. Alvin Choo

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    Hmmm... so 76ers got players in to play defense. So how does that equate to Iverson is overrated?
     

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