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Iverson top 50?

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by HtownRocket1, Oct 19, 2013.

  1. Kojirou

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    So, what, trying to replace anyone on that list is basketball ignorance?

    That 50 greatest players list is nice and all, but I'd say there's been at least players who are top 50 since then: Duncan, Lebron, Kobe, Wade, Dirk, Nash, Payton, Allen, Miller, Pierce, Kidd, and then maybe Iverson and McGrady. Furthermore, I would throw in Dominique and Bob McAdoo as guys who should have made that list to begin with. That means removing guys like Hal Greer and Worthy among others.
     
  2. legend215

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    Why is everyone so eager to replace legends of the game and disrespect their legacy. There's absolutely nothing wrong with making a top 75 list with the original guys and adding guys who were left off of that list and some of the guys since.
    Besides, that list was done to celebrate 50 years of the NBA.

    And young people. Basketball was here before you and most likely will be here after you are gone. No need to constantly try and hype up your generations players as superior to previous generations. All these stats some of you guys are pulling don't mean squat. Just imagine Jordan or Magic having the advanced stats that Lebron and KD use now showing every strength and weakness (statistically) that they had......In 20 years when guys are playing live games using some form of Google Glass and are constantly being fed info about the most efficient possible play to make in real time, kids then are going to be saying that their generations players are way better that the one's you idolize now. Just sayin'
     
  3. DonatasFanboy

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    Did people who put that list together disrespect legacy then? It was also a cross-generations list and thus by definition a comparison. I think it's possible to do it, mainly by looking at the player's achievements/status within his era. In reality it tends to get all over the place because it's hard to agree on criteria and stick to them.
     
  4. UTKaluman597

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    Of course you can make a top 75 list but the question here is whether or not AI is a top 50 player, which means that we have to look at the top 50 players of all time. Its not disrespecting anyones legacy to say someone has come along who is a better player. Alot of the guys in the top 50 are actually role players and are on it because they were on legendary teams. Since then, alot of superstars have come along who have actually LED their teams to great achievements (like Kobe, Lebron, TD). And to your 2nd paragraph addressed to young people, you dont make much sense so ill just leave it alone.
     
  5. t_mac1

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    He's not. But he is one of the most memorable 50 players in NBA history. He was a sports icon in his prime.
     
  6. bobloblaw

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    Iverson? Lmao... Larry Brown deserved an award for putting up with that thug. 6'0 tall chucker is exactly what he was and ever will be. He'll be a forgotten player soon enough.
     
  8. tycoonchip

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    Lin will be off this Rockets team before that ever happens.
     
  9. bobloblaw

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    So you are going to give it a year?
     
  10. HOUSTONJS

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    I doubt he will be a forgotten player. The kid is absolutely adorned by a ton of people. I don't like his brand of basketball. I like his heart but his style of play doesn't appeal to me.
     
  11. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    If he can continue his production and his injury doesn't stunt his career, yes.
     
  12. crash5179

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    now your just trying to see who you can piss off because you already know McHale is entrenched on that list and deservedly so.
     
  13. crash5179

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    Nope, not at all. I just think the person going in needs to justify moving the other person out. I don't think Iverson makes it IMO. The 1st players I would consider moving off the list would be Scottie Pippen, Jerry Lucas and Robert Parish. All of those were great players but they are at the bottom of the top 50 IMO.

    But we remove them we can't just replace them with AI, we have look at everyone. LBJ, Kobe, Tim Duncan would probably be my 1st choice to replace those guys.

    How about Lenny Wilkens? He was a great player but I would consider Dirk Nowitzki over him. How about Tiny Archibald? Maybe Kevin Garnett or Paul Peirce over him. Even Steve Nash would go in before AI. But who to replace?

    Cousy? No. Cowens? No. Sam Jones? No. Pistol Pete?

    I don't put AI in front of James Worthy, I guess because I watched both play and was more impressed with the things Worthy did. He did not just win the NBA Championship MVP because he was one of Magic's side kicks. He won it because he was a dominating player.

    The list certainly could be revised but that does not mean there is a place on it for AI.
     
  14. UTKaluman597

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    Nobody mentioned Cousy or Pistol. Hal Greer, Sam Jones, and Worthy can be replaced I think. Its hard to move legends off the list but I think its justifiable. And when was Worthy dominant? He was just a really good role player that got to play with superstars Kareem and Magic. Could he be dominant in a game or two? Sure, but he was always third fiddle on that team. I agree Dominique should def be top50, but Iverson was a special offensive player as well. He may have been a chucker, but he was so offensively dominant for so many years that he is most def top 50. Hes number 19 in scoring ALL TIME.
     
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    first ballot baby
     
  16. eddiewinslow

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    Take out all those 1950s and 1960s ballers. Im sorry but have you seen bob cousy's stats? Have you seen bob cousy play in old vids?

    Here's a list of current players who would eat bob cousy's lunch, and personally I don't think bob cousy would even be a top 20 point guard in today's league much less a top 50 player of all time, for god sakes the guy is a 37.5% career fg shooter......these guys TODAY are all better than him

    d-rose
    d-will
    CP3
    john wall
    russell westbrook
    Kyrie Iriving
    Tony Parker
    Steph Curry
    Rajon Rondo
    Eric Bledsoe
    Mike Conley
    Jeff Teague
    Ty Lawson
    Jrue Holliday
    Damian Lillard
     
  17. eddiewinslow

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    Seriously Bob Cousy,dave debuscherre,paul arizin and dave cowens are just garbage to be top 50 of all time. Athletes today are bigger,faster,stronger and more than likely some of these guys wouldn't even start on NBA teams today.

    It's the same in all leagues, NFL players today even someone like Cushing would just be the greatest linebacker of all time in the 1960s
     
  18. hector234

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    I wouldn't put McGrady in the Top 50 because his career was cut short due to injuries. He did have a 3-4 year window where he was a monster.
     
  19. hector234

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    It's hard to compare players from different eras. Look at Bill Russell and Wilt, they wouldn't have had the kind of stats they did in today's game.
     
  20. BigggReddd

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    AI is nothing more than a rich man's Monta Ellis. D-Wade in a heartbeat.
     

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