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I've seen many an offensive campaign ad, but...wow

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by rhadamanthus, Jun 15, 2011.

  1. Northside Storm

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    don't try logic.

    I actually think this is hilarious though.

    My full First Amendment support for this drivel---if one is to believe in a marketplace of "ideas", then well, the invisible hand of FREE MARKET LOGIC will smack this one right out of the ballpark.

    and tallanvor, I'm not quite sure how the explanation makes it look better---if anything it extends and puts the author's words into her mouth when she never said anything like this, and makes the guy look so much worse because basically, he thinks well---

    remember, assumptions make an ass out of you and me
     
  2. tallanvor

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    read the explanation again.......slowly. The author doesn't think that.
     
  3. JuanValdez

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    I'm not going to complain about strawmen and then avoid an argument based in logic. I am saddened though that tallanvor has managed to respond to almost everyone except me. :(
     
  4. Northside Storm

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    No, he thinks that she means that.

    When the f**k has she ever said that? All we know is that she supported an initiative to bring former gang members to help out current ones. well duh, you don't want to send Mrs.Smith and the Zeta Psi Sorority House to discuss life perspectives with a gang member.

    you know those inkblot tests---how you interpret them shows a little of yourself? In creating a strawman argument, and then adding that little bit in, it's safe to say that any inkblot test with the author would probably not come out too well.

    ("black, black OMG BLACK EVERYWHERE ARGABARGLE"
     
  5. tallanvor

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    She justified her actions by saying "It takes a different kind of person to speak the language.". The author interprets that to mean what is previously quoted. You may disagree with that interpretation but that would just make him wrong, not racist.

    No. She got early release for convicted gang members and then paid them with tax dollars for 'gang prevention'. One of those gang members released was this fellow:

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-5095599-504083.html

     
  6. Northside Storm

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    yeah, because all gang members are black.

    seriously, you're all up in arms about some guy sending a crotch shot through the Internet, but you seem curiously apathetic about Nazi-simulating politicians or people who put these RIDICULOUS words into others.

    uh, think about that for a second.

    yeah, let me make it easier.

     
  7. FranchiseBlade

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    1. correct. That isn't what she was saying.

    2. Yes Salon should have posted the original explanation because it continues to show how horrible and offensive the people are.
     
  8. FranchiseBlade

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    It could make them racist, but that part doesn't necessarily make them racist. The part that makes them racist is the part that was already pointed out about black gang members who can't rap meeting Mr. Policemen.

    The idea that all gang members are black, or that the other option for them would be rapping... etc.

    That's what makes them racist in addition to their ad.
     
  9. Northside Storm

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    I actually want this ad to run as often as possible. It's a perfect illustration in my mind of the test of the "free market of ideas"...something like this has to sink and alienate viewers.

    It's so hilarious to me, I'm actually thinking Turn Right USA is a leftist organization that is just planting ridiculous s**t. in which case I say well done, well done.

    it's even funnier that you're trying to defend this tallanvor, guess you're really good at sweeping trash from both sides of the aisle, eh?
     
  10. B-Bob

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    Oh, sure, hide behind fancy French language. :mad: Look, if you want to call us "reds," just DO it. Man up and pull the commie card! You can really just suck it. :mad:
     
  11. Northside Storm

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    Je pète chez vous, et cela vous plaît.

    >:D
     
  12. mc mark

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    it just makes me giggle because he pretty much proved my point
     
  13. Rashmon

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    I don't recall where I heard this but, is it true that Mitt Romney once killed a homeless man in a drunken rage at the Boston bar that was the setting for the "Cheers" sitcom?
     
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    Very catchy tune....
     
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    You guys arguing with tallanvor are r****ded.
     
  16. Northside Storm

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    or easily amused, and always seeking further amusement.
     
  17. rhadamanthus

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    Fair.
     
  18. FranchiseBlade

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    I stopped once I saw he was going to adapt the giddyup style of debate and ignore or excuse completely offensive things.
     
  19. tallanvor

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    If you didn't want anyone to debate and discuss, then why did you put it in the D&D forum?
     
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    The fact that he ( and a lot of other right-wingers) can defend this ad stuns me. If this is what the Republican right-wing is these days, I want no further part of it.
     
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