It's time to start thinking about moving Jalen to the BENCH

…I think Jabari struggled mightily last year with trying to make reads and trying to do too much with the ball. Jalen for whatever reasons is similarly struggling and has even regressed and I think the antidote is the same - limit what they can do with the ball and force them into making a very simple read and go-one or two dribbles max. You can’t hold on to the ball and you can’t dribble too much - make your read and quickly make a move. Once Jalen can figure that out(it seems to be helping Jabari), he can move on to more advanced playmaking reads but this really is a back to basics simple read and react style of play.

 

The difference is when Jabari’s shot isn’t falling he can still play average to above-average defense and grab you 10 rebounds. He’s doing other things.

If we don’t care a lick about winning this season, we could play Jalen 40 mpg and hope he figures it out. I don’t think the coach, GM or owner would be content with that if it means we aren’t winning games.

 

It was clear Jalen was not going to be apart of the new era of winning, team, defensive-mined, fundamentally sound basketball. Stone had ALL off-season to move him but didn’t. (Even for half his last year’s value, we would be a better place than now). Mid - late lottery - easy trade then —> Not everything is surprise BUT here we are now. Stone you know or should know your players.

 

The question was how to solve his offensive troubles - and that's it. It's failure of the coach and GM if we aren't trying to figure out ways to maximize his value while he is under contract here. You can either sell extremely low on him in a trade for someone who probably isn't helping your team out a ton or you figure out a way to make Jalen look good by limiting his options and hope it either improves his contributions to this team or improves his trade value with other teams. Literally the worst thing you could do is sit him on the bench to rot because you want to win 2 or 3 more games and still not be a legit playoff team.

This is still a developmental year no matter how excited the fanbase is at being unexpectedly competitive. If you aren't giving Jalen minutes, then you are giving them to other young guys who also have their own flaws - Tari can't hit a layup and doesn't particularly play well within a "system" - he creates and feeds off of chaos, Cam is an even worse passer/read maker than Jalen and is even more inconsistent on defense than Green and Amen is um, rough around the edges to say the least.

It's not even really about some obligation to Jalen - this is just an asset and team management problem because we need to be able to recoup some value from Jalen at some point - otherwise it was a waste of a pick...but Houston has continued to gobble up draft guys and kind of waste them here. After having 10 promising guys under 21 here, only two or three of them look like legit NBA players(Sengun, Jabari, and Tari)? Really? And we just gave up on Christopher, Garuba, and TyTy - shipped them off to make room for a player who never signed here. Our GM and owner need to check themselves before pointing to Jalen, Christopher, Garuba, TyTy, KPJ, and Silas and saying it's their fault - certainly they need to do that before we can even talk about what we need to do as a team to get better. Accountability runs both ways.

 

Count me on Team Bench Jalen, start Tari, and play WhitMore

 

I'm all for just splitting minutes between Cam and Green. Develop them both.

 

Enough is enough. Time to grab some pine.

 

Well, limit his bench minutes to 20 minutes.

 

It's pretty obvious to anyone with a brain that Cam can start in place of Jalen and we'll improve as a team.

Jalen is just not it, at best this point he can be a future 6th man and I doubt even that will happen.

 

Right now, he's not only one of the worst offensive shooting guard in the league but he's also the worst defensive shooting guard in the league by a large margin.

I still think there's no point in trading him but bench his ass until he proves otherwise.

 

Jordan Clarkson is 6th man type player, Jalen is boarder line garbage time player. Honestly he is on par with last years Josh Christopher level effectiveness terms of helping team

 

jaylen is secksy.. but unfortunately breh is still

Spoiler

 

Jalen does not mentally have it. That's all it is.

He actually has the tools to play A LOT better but mentally...he's not there.

BBIQ wise he's not there and confidence wise he's not there.

Maybe that will change in the future but with every game it seems less likely that future will be with the Rockets.

 

We could see clearly tonight that Jabari took that next step as a player, he took over offensive role with Sengun in OT and he had no hesitation when he was shooting jump shot and he was great on defense. Jalen was just scared and didn’t even bother looking for his shot, even both of our rookies showed more heart. Dude is done and I just hope he can find a way to redeem him self

 

Yep. That's what hurts.

Jalen has regressed. If he had improved even slightly from last year maybe we could say, okay he's adjusting to this new role he has on the team blah blah blah...

But he's gotten worse. It's to the point where most are watching the game and want to see anyone close games like tonight outside of Jalen.

I don't want to bench Jalen because it might completely tank his value but in a world where that doesn't matter I wouldn't even blink if Cam replaced him in the starting lineup.

 

Jalen not making a play on that ball going out of bounds when Dillon obviously last touched it which gave the Jazz another possession. SMH. Either a lack of hustle, basketball IQ, or both.

 

Just stop this nonsense. WE DO NOT NEED Jalen Green! We don't need him on the bench. We don't need him on the roster, we just don't need him. You win some and you lose some. We screwed up the 2nd pick. We move on. We got Sengun that draft and that's all that matters. Jabari, Eason, Cam and Amen are more than making up for it.
Amen and Cam need the development time and from the looks of it can help carry the load. FVV will still be around getting his minutes for the time being to give that mentorship so his role is locked. Run FVV Cam and Amen. We still have Holiday just in case of injuries.
This reminds me of when Golden state was at a cross roads with Monta Ellis and Curry. They didn't move Monta to the bench. They traded him and let the Curry era begin. Or when Eddie Jones got Shipped to let Kobe take over. It"s time to let the guy go.

 

Amen block and Green watching that ball go out of bounds show where they are as players. Situational awareness. Green doesn't have it.

 

Why stop at moving him to the bench? Don’t we have a better spot for him down in the Toyota Center basement or janitors closet or something

 

That single play would've honestly brought down hellfire on Jalen if the Rockets didn't get a W.

Also his zero effort attempt at even tracking his man after they'd released a shot in OT.... offensive rebound to Jalen's man and another 24 seconds of defense for the Rockets down the stretch.

Jalen's biggest plays are seemingly nearly always for the other team.