It's time to start thinking about moving Jalen before the deadline

It's so obvious that we need a reliable 3pt shooter. Let's look at some of the teams in the league

Celtics: Tatum-Derrick White-Jrue even Harford (for a center) all above average 3pt shooters.

Bucks : Beasley, Middleton, Brook, Lillard

Magic: Suggs, Banchero, Cole Anthony.

Sixers: Maxey, Embiid, Harris, Melton, Batum

Knicks: Brunson, Rj, Quickley, Grimes

Wolves: KAT, Conley, Ant

Nuggets: MPJ, KCP, Murray

Mavs: Kyrie, Doncic, Hardaway, Derrick Jones Jr even Seth Curry.

Kings: Barnes, Huerter, Monk.


Ideally you want to have at least 2 great three point shooters if you don't have a superstar. If you have a superstar you can afford to have only 1 great 3pt shooter and couple good 3pt shooters.

Rockets (3pt)

Sengun isn't a good I'd say he is a 4/10 as a shooter.
Jalen isn't a good 3pt shooter. 5/10.
Brooks is a good 3pt shooter. 7/10.
Jabari is a good 3pt shooter. 7/10.
FVV is a good 3pt shooter. 7.5/10.
Holiday is a good 3pt shooter. 7/10.
Tari isn't a good 3pt shooter. 5/10.
Reggie and Jeff don't play a lot and Tate can't shoot. Jock is a bum.

So we don't have a great 3pt shooter, a sniper in our roster. A Desmond Bane, Trey Murphy, Devin Vassell we don't have that dude. We don't fall in 2 great shooter category and we don't have a superstar. So we don't have room for any mistakes. That's why we have to hustle every night to win. If they don't work their ass off every night they are gonna lose every game. We would be 13-5 with Devin Vassell but we have Jalen Green instead he's the reason why we are 9-9. We are 1 reliable 3pt shooter away from being a playoff team. That guy is probably Cam but they refuse to face that reality. Jalen should immediately be benched for Cam and shouldn't get more than 22 minutes a night. Cam will have problems adjusting to the NBA for a month or two then he'll find his rhythm. His stroke is excellent we have a 0.37-38 career 3pt shooter in our hands. He can play bullyball like Banchero does because he's strong. He can create his own shot too.

 

Why on Earth would we even want a mid-first or late FRP. That is really poor reasoning. It is much better to see what we have over the next 2 years. If it’s good, we will want to pay him. If somebody gives him a bag for sucking more power to them. The only thing to trade Jalen for is a difference maker and the only way to do that now is to attach assets. We do not want mediocre first round picks, we want veterans to go along with our extremely young core.

 

I mean, yeah, but 80% of the time it’s inefficiently doing so. That’s the problem.

 

what Jalen needs to do is stop wasting time doing KD and Devin Booker workouts in the summer, and start training with Tyrese Maxey and James Harden

Tyrese Maxey has all types of floaters and layups in his bag and knows how to use his speed effectively as a small thin guard

 

What is the value of Jalen? I don’t think we gonna get an equal amount return if we trade him now, best case is let him test out free agency first and match the contract (hopefully no team gives him max)

 

Jamal Murray is averaging 19 points per game in his career. His assists the last 2 years have gone up from 3 to 6 assists.

Jalen Green is averaging 19 points and around 3 assists. He is developing and with more experience he can average more assists, learning more about this new system.

 

Murray is only getting 6 assists because Jokic and the others are getting the assists.....he is doing the hockey assist....

He and other Nuggets are superior shooters.

You forgot that Murray also does what Fred VV does but better and Jalen is not going to do that....namely controlling the pace......and picking up the pace.

 

Sometimes he does the hockey pass but mostly he starts the offense in the pick and roll with Jokic.

Jalen Green and Alperen Sengun Pick and Roll is more Lethal than Fred VanVleet Pick and Roll.

 

So this 6 assists are not saying much, because he is somewhat of a great shooter and closer for them.....

None of Green or Alpe is considered even a decent shooter.

Shooting is pretty important, you see that with Tyrese Haliburton. Opens up the game.

But even then the Rockets are a great home court team.

 

Yeah, everyone knows this. There's just a few drama queens on the board who like to ignore the contract situation so they can rush out and suggest what they think is a brilliant trade/change.

There's 0% reason to think about trading him right now unless a superstar SG becomes available. We can think about it in the summer but we can also let him hit restricted free agency the following summer. Right now is unquestionably the worst time you could trade him. We delayed his development two years and have taken only 18 games to fix it. If the signs weren't promising I would understand but Jalen has improved at almost everything in 18 games. More than he improved in 2 years under Silas. So yeah, let's keep doing this for a little more than 18 games lol. The only thing he's struggling with is finishing at the rim, everything else has improved. Finishing at the rim is VERY important to being worth the max though, so I can understand the concern. Personally it looks to me like he's responding to coaching well and improving week by week. He'll get stable in about 12 games.

Some team giving him the max would be great. It means he's worth the max or near it and we can match it. The worst thing would be no one offers him anything and we get to keep him super cheap - it means his production is the lowest it can possibly be.

Anyway, this is all irrelevant because he's going to have his highest trade value ever by the end of this season and we can decide what to do with him then.

 

Correct. He needs to train like the undersized guard he is. Tyree Maxeys game would do him wonders b/c Jalen has zero bag. He just jumps high

 

Maxey, Fox, Alexander, and Morant are who I want Jalen modeling his game after, we saw all that work in the summer but don't see it on the court.

 

That’s a false narrative that Jalen worked hard last summer.

 

He worked hard, just on the WRONG THINGS.

Needs to work on his left handed dribble, his hesitation, his changing speeds and changing directions, his left handed finish....his BBall IQ......

Instead he worked on new shots.....he needs work on FUNDAMENTALS first.

DD

 

All he has to do is just giving up the ball to Holiday or Fred in the 4th.

 

You're advocating trading Green for a mid to late first round pick? Wow, thankfully you aren't the gm. That's one of the worst trade proposals I have seen on message boards and that's saying something

 

You have 4 different player types, just choose one.

He already has difficulties choosing who he wants to be. I know it is Kyrie but they cannot be any different.

 

He is closest to Maxey on that list

 

Difference is Murray is a career 37.4% three point shooter and only 2 of his 7 seasons was he below-average beyond the 3P line (one of which was his rookie year).

If Jalen can get his shooting up to that point, sure, maybe he can play a Murray-like role for us. He has some work to do though.

 

Murray is also a very clutch Playoff shooter and performer, you do not get that without much experience.