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It's time for Tmac to make his mind!

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by abc2007, Nov 26, 2008.

  1. ShadyMcGrady

    ShadyMcGrady Member

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    I see. Look, I know T-Mac isn't the end-all-be-all. Him playing is not a guaranteed win. I just don't like how he gets all this criticism when it could easily be applied to other players.

    Not that I'm accusing Yao of anything, but he sat out one game too. T-Mac has been playing hurt this whole season and he decided to finally sit a game out when Shane got back. Bill said in the broadcast he hopes to play on Saturday. I hope he does.

    Also, I think we shouldn't need both T-Mac and Yao against a team like the Pacers, but apparently we're not at that level as a team yet. Which is understandable. Shane just got back. The real Rockets team will be ready for viewing soon enough. :D
     
  2. Nolocke

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    Then what was the point in picking up Artest? I mean Artest was supposed to be our security for when Tmac went down. I know Artest has contributed greatly to this team but he has got to get that field goal precentage up or he will help bury this team with missed buckets.
     
  3. ShadyMcGrady

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    T-Mac wasn't supposed to "go down" this early in the season. And it's not certain if he's down or not. He might play Saturday, at least thats' what Bill said. Who really knows what's going through his mind.

    Also, as for both Yao and McGrady being there, I didn't mean for every game. I meant in general. We need Yao and T-Mac out there. If either one of them are missing for the playoffs, I will bet $1000 we lose in the first round.

    Artest is here to take pressure off BOTH of them, and to help this team when either one goes down. Not to make sure we're fullproof. Right?
     
  4. t_mac1

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    this is a game we should win.

    didn't we get artest for games like this? dude STUNK it up offensively AGAIN. yao stunk it up. every starter shot below 40%.

    and yet we still should have won.
     
  5. orbb

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    Tmac plays injured: TMac needs to rest his knee :mad:
    Tmac doesnt play: Tmac needs to STFU and play :mad:


    wow :D
     
  6. el_locoteee

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    Bipolar Fans = Clutchfans = most young fans

    They need a scapegoat to blame someone, have no patient and have a short memory.
     
  7. Nolocke

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    McGrady deserves to rest, its the point that our team should have beat these scrubs with the guys we had. If we can't beat a scrub team with all our players but Tmac on the court then something is seriously wrong. Trades are called for and should be. Players are paid to knock down shots and if their field goal percentage is garbage then they have to go, its just a fact.
     
  8. engr_alex

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    i cant believe some of the guys here. tmac wants to shut it down for a few games. if it were up to him, im sure he would have put himself in the IR for a few more weeks. unfortunately, the coaching/management doesnt want him to. him sitting out this game was obviously a compromise because they thought this team can beat indiana even without tmac. i guess they were wrong. and you cant blame that on tmac.

    kobe has a dislocated finger. does that stop him from running? or jumping? you can still take shots with a broken finger as long as you have it wrapped or have a splint. a knee injury is different. it alters your entire game. tmac gets criticized for poor defense because he's half a step slow with his injury. now he wants to sit out so that someone can step in and play better defense than him, and still you blame him for that?

    i cant believe even without playing, tmac still gets the blame. when we lost when yao was out, was he blamed for not playing? why didnt anyone tell him to play through the pain of a broken foot instead of shutting it down and getting surgery? when rafer was out during the playoffs, why wasnt he blamed? during our first 15 games, why wasnt battier blamed for 5 losses when he should have already returned weeks ago. why wasnt he asked to come back early to play especially with ron not contributing offensively? tmac's recovery is expected to be 6-9 months. he's only on his 6th month. he came back early. he's still playing in pain and he's asking not to play in some games so he can come back stronger and fresher while he's not a 100%.

    this was a game the rockets was supposed to win wihout a tmac. so why the hell did they lose? and you still blame tmac? crazy.
     
  9. abc2007

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    All I want to say is that Tmac overestimated this rockets team!

    Sometimes, it seems Tmac is not able to make a sober estimate of the situation.
     
  10. t_mac1

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    exactly. if we're a really deep team or a potentially champion-caliber team, we should have won. apparently, we're not.

    this was a perfect chance for ron to say, hey, if tracy's not gonna play, i'm gonna step up and take over. apparently, he failed miserably.
     
  11. durvasa

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    T-Mac is going to have his detractors no matter what he does. He needs to just follow the advise of his coaches and doctors. They told him he should play. But he decided on his own not to. If he comes back on Saturday limping as usual, what will his excuse be?
     
  12. t_mac1

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    he didn't limp at all in the 3 game road trip (he did limp a little in the mavs game).

    look, tracy and the organization are obviously on different views regarding this issue and it's frustrating. but knowing how tracy is very very wild emotionally regarding his injuries, if he feels he needs to sit out to get a peace of mind, i'd do it.

    he's feeling frustrated with his level of play right now, according to jon feign. you don't want a tracy who's feeling frustrated out there.

    and he admits the knee is not gonna get worse regardless of what path he's taking. right now, he probably just needs a peace of mind, re-process what he can and can't do, and how he should play. maybe a few games off will let him figure it out.
     
  13. abc2007

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    The rockets are not a mature team yet.

    So far, I think the best 3 teams in the wc are the lakers, jazz, and spurs.

    Their systems are more mature than ours. Moreover, their excutions are much better than ours.

    The goal for this season should be passing the 1st round.
     
  14. Angkor Wat

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    Its hilarious. There is not one thing T-Mac can do right. He could solve world peace and people would still b**** about him. Clyde Drexler himself said he likes the idea of T-Mac taking some time off while its still early. He mentioned that hes been limping every game hes played and should take a little time to heal up. This is coming from a former NBA player. Obviously he knows more than us when it comes to this subject. He has the credentials unlike some of the coaches, GMs and psychologist on this board.
     
  15. durvasa

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    It's pretty damning for a player to bail on his team because he's "frustrated". I really hope there's more to it than that.
     
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    I was looking for him and didn't see him, but I could be wrong.
     
  17. t_mac1

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    he didn't bail on his team. he clearly played limping when he could have sat and let the limping go away before he played.

    shane basically took a much longer time and tracy clearly came back before he was really ready (in terms of the limping) because he knew the team needed him more b/c they didn't have battier.

    right now, he feels he cannot help the team reach its potential if he keeps playing like this. if he believes time off will allow him to regain some of his confidence in his knee, then let him.

    look if tracy even just plays a "little" better than he has been, we're not going to go where we want to go. we need him fairly healthy. if he needs rest, let him. but his progress appears to be very slow when he has to "play through" the knee problems. so why not have a new course of strategy and let him rest a few games here and there?
     
  18. theREALDEALkid

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    i think we'll be alright when it counts... We were 15-17 last year and still mannaged to win 55 games, we're ahead of that now, i believe that in time, this team will be great, we've already seen some glipmses of it.
     
  19. trueroxfan

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    id much rather he be close to 100 percent in april, may, and june, than him be 70 percent or lower the entire season...we can win without tmac, we have enough talent, a deep enough roster, to win with this team alone, tmac solidifies our chances at a title run, you really want tmac to play like crap all season? just so you can convince yourself he's a man? he's actually hurt, he isn't making up this pain, he isn't over analyzing it, he is in pain, he wants to get better, he WANTS TO WIN A CHAMPIONSHIP, he wouldn't sacrifice his chances at one if he was able to play through some pain. have you seen tmac dunk this year? i think i can remember one time in the dallas game, one time they threw him an alley and he barely got high enough for a layup let alone a dunk, he needs to rest, he needs to build strength, this isn't working. it doesn't take a doctor to realize he looks atrocious out there, his game is based on his athleticism and lift, if he doesn't have that he is screwed...stop whining about tmac, we got artest so we wouldn't have to worry about it
     
  20. abc2007

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    It appears to be very painful for some rockets fans to discover the distance between ideal and reality!

     

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