1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

It's time for Houston to Deal

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by ZomgZ, Jan 16, 2016.

  1. ZomgZ

    ZomgZ Member

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2010
    Messages:
    362
    Likes Received:
    11
    The Nba season is now into halfway, and the Houston Rockets are now a 21-20.
    Articles are reporting that the rockets are not elite status anymore, as good teams are putting up good numbers on them. Houston turns the ball over, as well as James Harden in key secs... down the stretch which hurts the rockets 4th quarter comebacks. They usually trail now instead of last year leading near the 4th quarter.

    It is obvious that if James Harden is the # play option, and there is no 2nd tier option, this makes clear that houston has been figured out by the league. There has to come to a time, where GM, Owner can understand this by now, and needs to make they right move or 2. To balance this team, and get it on the winning track.

    You need to have a 2nd scoring option, and you need somebody on the bench who can defensively be a stopper. When will houston deal?
     
  2. kjayp

    kjayp Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2006
    Messages:
    8,702
    Likes Received:
    7,460
    If there's no second option it's because harden is so ball dominant... C'mon we have a future HOFer at center, ,yet he can get only 6 to 8 shots many nights... We spent years trying to get Dwight and then he's virtually ignored for quarters, halfs and games at a time... We need someone to RUN THE TEAM - and not just be Harden's b****....
     
  3. Bobbythegreat

    Bobbythegreat Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2013
    Messages:
    63,877
    Likes Received:
    26,552
    It would be a lot easier if he was at least decent in the post creating his own shot.....but when he's averaging 0.83 points per possession in the post, it's kind of hurting your team going to that. I mean, he's still better than Capela in the post, but every other big man on the roster is a better option down low.
     
  4. Bobbythegreat

    Bobbythegreat Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2013
    Messages:
    63,877
    Likes Received:
    26,552
    That said, DMo hasn't been very good in his little playing time this year so honestly we don't have a viable post option right now.
     
  5. kjayp

    kjayp Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2006
    Messages:
    8,702
    Likes Received:
    7,460
    He's shooting the highest fg% of his career... granted thats due to lobs - so throw him more lobs... whats the problem?
     
  6. krouchchocolate

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2010
    Messages:
    3,660
    Likes Received:
    926
    U act like u can generate a lob on each play. It's not that easy u know.
     
  7. Bobbythegreat

    Bobbythegreat Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2013
    Messages:
    63,877
    Likes Received:
    26,552
    The problem is that someone has to create those lobs for him and even though they make it look easy, it's really not that easy. As it stands, he gets the 2nd most touches on the team, so they really aren't ignoring him, it's just that he's not a very efficient scorer unless he's dunking the ball.
     
  8. kjayp

    kjayp Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2006
    Messages:
    8,702
    Likes Received:
    7,460
    I think we can get twice as many as we have been... I'd say there are easily 6-10 lob opportunities a game - if its a focus... add another half dozen posessions to him downlow... the guy should be taking 12-16 shots a game - as opposed to the 8.6 he's averaging this year... Not to mention, if youre gonna take the detriment of 'hack a Howard' then you need to get better production...
     
  9. BackdoorHarden

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2015
    Messages:
    5,207
    Likes Received:
    3,449
    Dwight is your 2nd option. Pass it to him.
     
  10. Rockets_12

    Rockets_12 Member

    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2010
    Messages:
    1,433
    Likes Received:
    24
    Rudy Gay would be perfect. Kings rejected an offer of Gordon/Gee from the Pelicans. Kings wanted Anderson.

    Brewer
    Jones
    Dekker
    Future 1st

    for Rudy Gay.
     
  11. Williamson

    Williamson JOSH CHRISTOPHER ONLY FAN
    Supporting Member Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2002
    Messages:
    15,324
    Likes Received:
    18,621
    I'm going to go ahead and strongly disagree with you. What's he even good at?
     
  12. J Sizzle

    J Sizzle Member

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2012
    Messages:
    43,509
    Likes Received:
    29,575
    LOL

    Lets get weird
     
  13. snowconeman22

    snowconeman22 Member

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2008
    Messages:
    14,062
    Likes Received:
    16,012
    We need to put energy guys out there , since we obviously can't play intelligently at least we can try to play harder than other teams . We have 1.5 guys playin right now that can pass : harden and Lawson when he decides to show up . Given that harden has struggled with turnovers all year , I'm leaning towards there being a significant X's and O's issue that our coaching either can't figure out how to fix or can't implement .

    **** , we've been thoroughly outclassed in games against lesser teams and looked like we didn't belong in the NBA some nights against good ones .

    We aren't one piece away . Our team needs to play like a team . Generally speaking adding a player at mid season won't accomplish that . We shouldn't have fired mchale only to give the reigns to JB . Despite what it looked like effort isn't our main issue . Having one playmaker who the league has adjusted to is what is costing us , that and pretty poor shooting .

    I say let the young guys play and try to actually coach our way out of this mess , if not bring in a new guy . Those wanting to trade harden because other teams will think a " change of scenery " will fix him , we can provide our own change of scenery by bringing in a different coach .
     
  14. OpenLayup-Why3?

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2015
    Messages:
    2,331
    Likes Received:
    58
    So, 0.83 per post up is why Howard doesn't get the ball? Then how come 2-10 every other night from 3 doesn't stop Haren from shooting 10 3s every night?
    Morey promised McHale and every possession to start with pass in the post, when Howard was recruited. Howard was lied to. I'd have demanded trade if I was him long time ago.
     
    2 people like this.
  15. Rockets_12

    Rockets_12 Member

    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2010
    Messages:
    1,433
    Likes Received:
    24
    He's a good scorer. Great mid range, can shoot off the dribble, and a decent 3 point shooter. Don't understand the hate. Don't forget, Morey drafted him
     
  16. Bobbythegreat

    Bobbythegreat Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2013
    Messages:
    63,877
    Likes Received:
    26,552
    If Harden was shooting 20% on the season from 3, it probably would stop him from shooting them, as it stands he's only hitting 32.7% of them which is pretty bad but you'd expect him to hit closer to 36% of them by the end of the season.

    As to Dwight, he's always had bad post numbers.
     
  17. RoxBeliever

    RoxBeliever Member

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2009
    Messages:
    6,608
    Likes Received:
    134
    If we're just gonna end up with the 7th or 8th seed or even out of the playoff race, we will need to change our supporting cast or get another star who can generate his own offense and not be a defensive liability.

    Maybe that will have to wait till the offseason when we know what the deal is with Dwight and Ty will be gone. Meanwhile we can enjoy the games when the team can get it together.
     
  18. kjayp

    kjayp Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2006
    Messages:
    8,702
    Likes Received:
    7,460
    so at 32.7, we're gettin .91 per Harden 3 which seems to be our #1 option.... but .83 for D12 is horrendous.... so we're gonna keep feeding one while discounting the other as too poor... okay.... lol...smh...
     
    #18 kjayp, Jan 16, 2016
    Last edited: Jan 16, 2016
  19. maw7079

    maw7079 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2002
    Messages:
    388
    Likes Received:
    71
    We need a FIRST option. I hate this team... Can't even root for them... I've been a fan since '83 and this is the most unlikeable team in Rockets history... So lethargic... They feed off James
     
  20. radiohunk

    radiohunk Member

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2003
    Messages:
    114
    Likes Received:
    54
    It is coaching. Period. There has to be a coach that can steer this ship. Not utilizing Ty, letting Harden get away with his stupid turnovers, not feeding Howard consistently. Who is to blame?
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now