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It's the schedule. The Rockets are just fine.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by RX2012, Nov 18, 2010.

  1. rockets934life

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    Last night was the first game that I thought to myself, we might truly be a medicore to bad team. We shot 60% in the first half and the team was still down 11, very depressing.

    The schedule will get easier and fully expect a 7-8 record but after that either reality will sink in again or this team will make it's stand...we shall see.
     
  2. Luckyazn

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    So the Texans are 4-5 because of the schedule too?

    We are just not that good .... we dont expect to beat playoff teams.

    Only wins we get are vs. nonplayoff teams.

    We dont expect to win when playing:

    Lakers
    Heat
    Jazz
    Mavericks
    Bulls
    Celtics
    Thunder
    Magic
    Hornets
    Spurs
    Nuggets

    and probably Suns, Warriors and Portland.

    but we can beat the others :rolleyes:
     
  3. ima_drummer2k

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    Really? Last night was the first time you've thought that? I first thought that while watching Yao Ming limp off the court after Game 3 against the lakers 2 years ago...

    Man, I honestly hate to keep being Debbie Downer about this team, but I don't see it getting any better any time soon unless something drastic is done. And by "drastic" I mean something besides AB and CBud coming back from injuries and Tenderfoot coming back to play at 50% in half the games.

    If that's what we're clinging to to save the season....God help us.

    EDIT: I'm also pretty sure the OP is being sarcastic which is why I'm rating this thread 5 stars.
     
  4. Angkor Wat

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    "We're the deepest team in the league.......we're contenders." I'm tired of hearing that. Well, why aren't we playing well?
     
  5. Rockets_4_life

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    I don't think we're that bad, hell, if it wasn't for some costly turnover's and missed free-throws, we win that game against chicago.

    The way I see it, the team was struggling to build chemistry early on with Yao(but they were making progress). Then Kyle missed the early part of the season, and then Brooks got injured forcing Lowry to come back earlier than expected. Then Yao and Chase(who was shooting 17% from three) go down not really giving this team time to build chemistry. Which pretty much explain the early struggle of this team.

    Once we get healthy, and have Lowry and Brooks(as well as Yao and Chase) back completely healthy we will see a different team on the court. I just think we need to give this team time to get healthy (have Chase, Yao and Aaron come back from their ankle injuries).. and let them built chemistry before we go and call this team lottery bound.

    Hell, I think when this team gets healthy and running smoothly we can beat anyone, including the lakers ... suck it b****es :p
     
  6. ChievousFTFace

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    Did somebody say vibration?!

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    OP is spot on... but I'm afraid that just makes a mediocre team that can't pull out a victory against more talented teams.
     
  7. jim1961

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    Once upon a time, the Rockets had a decent chance to beat any team on any night.

    While the schedule has been difficult so far this season, the Rockets are far from alright.
     
  8. waytookrzy079

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    I think the problem early on has been the inconsistency of having Yao on the court. Its like the T-Mac situation we had 2 years ago. It was hard to be consistent until T-Mac eventually quit - Adelman was able to plan accordingly once he knew what he had with Yao and Artest.

    I think regardless of Yao's health, we need to be able to play him on back-to-backs and get rid of this "24-min" crap in order for us to do well. If we lose him, we lose him. Its not like he's under contract for the next 2-3 years. Its his last year - if he does well, GREAT. If he blows up his foot again, then obviously he's gone.

    I know it sounds bad.. cuz a player's health should ALWAYS come first, but if there's gonna be limitations, just hold him out until he can play without restrictions.

    I'm still fairly optimistic, becuase all things considered.. the only game we had no business in winning was against OKC. The rest of the 7 losses could have been Wins. The games we've lost this year, we might have won last year because we had consistency. I'd rather have the injury bug bite us early rather than later in the season.

    Basically, it all boils down to consistency in the roster - we havent had it yet. Yao's been in and out, Brooks and Lowry havent played together yet - and both Lowry and Brooks were a huge part of our success last year. And this I think this is why the rest of the roster is struggling.
     
  9. vick

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    You must be the one person in houston that thinks Kubiak is doing a great job, and that they are going to the superbowl.I hope you dont still believe in Santa Claus. I have some land I want to sell you, its cheap, I call the plot of land FOOLS GOLD.
     
  10. PigMiller

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    You can justify it however you want, but the bottom line is that the Rockets aren't very good and it's not going to get any easier.
     
  11. ima_drummer2k

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    Totally agree with this. 100%.

    No offense, but I'm really tired of this mentality. Texan fans have been doing it for years.

    What if it bites us early, middle, and late in the season? This has been the pattern in Houston for years.

    By "success" you mean 42-40 and no playoffs?

    Sounds like a cheap shot, I know, but I'm just making the point that the talent level on our roster - healthy or not - is WAY overrated by most people here. I think the main reason this team is 3-8 is because it's just not that good.
     
  12. DaDakota

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    Nothing to see here, the Rockets are fine !

    DD
     
  13. Mr. Clutch

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    To be fair, a lot of people overrated the Rockets, not just Rockets fans. Vegas had them around 48 wins.

    And I don't want to sound naive, but it IS still early. I'm not feeling good, but I'm going to let the season play out a little more.
     
  14. seeingred

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    "once we get healthy...."

    really ? really ??
     
  15. rockets934life

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    They showed me enough glimpses to believe they could make a run at being an above average team but after last night, I am beginning to believe even if AB, Yao and Bud return this team will be no better then average. I had held out hope Yao would return to form by new years but I've lost faith in that and realize we are basically the Texans...above average offense but horrendous defense.

    Hollinger's article yesterday was spot on and put things in perspective, the time is coming to burn the dam house down and completely rebuild it.
     
  16. ima_drummer2k

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    Actually that's about where I had them too, believe it or not. I'm not suggesting we're going to play at a 0.273 PCT for the rest of the season (I hope...), but you know there were people here who were predicting a championship before the season started because of our 12-man rotation and the fact that we took the lakers to 7 games 2 years ago (with a totally different team).

    Agreed. I think we'll eventually get better and probably work our way back up to .500, but that's about it. I also think Yao is as good as done.
     
  17. Voice of Reason

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    When was the last time the Rockets were healthy? How many years has it been? I'm just wondering when Kevin "The Human Walking Stick" Martin is going to be hurt. Not if, but when.

    Sorry for being the Rockets troll today, but this is getting old.
     
  18. waytookrzy079

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    Right, i get what you're saying here, but it all comes down to consistency. We're having the same problems as we had wit T-Mac and Artest. Both were in and out of the lineup at the start. We played just fine once we had consistency in our lineup. Its been like that with Yao and Lowry this year. Both are important for us to do well.

    Can't argue here..

    I think last season was a success since we did finish with a winning record. I know this is the "Texans Mentality", but not very many teams could have a winning season (esp in the WEST) with a 6'6 (on a good day) center. But we had consistency with our lineup. Brooks,Hayes, and Scola started all 82 games. Ariza started 72 games. I cant even count how many different starting lineups we've had this year... (and we're only 11 games in)

    If you go back 2 years (with Ron Ron) and take away Yao and Deke from that roster, it would be the same thing. With the lack of size to clog the paint, we've struggled.

    The reason everyone was so optimistic (esp me) was cuz we've got big men on our roster to clog the paint. But our lineup has been so inconsistent that it hasnt worked out that way for us.

    Unfortunately, the success of this season relies on Yao's health which is why he needs to be able to play without restrictions. If that's not gonna happen, then you might as well trade him away for future draft picks and bring some new faces to this team and hope for the best for next year. Or hold on to his contract since he, battier and jeffries come off the books after this year.
     
  19. Mr. Clutch

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    Yep, I never thought we were contenders. I was hoping for a slight improvement to last year.

    As far as Yao, all we can do at this point is hope...
     
  20. hitman1900

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    Hahaha, is this sarcasm? The funny thing is I bet the Rockets will beat the Lakers once or twice this season because they always get up for that team however they will continue to be mediocre against everybody else.
     

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