I don't understand how you can use Jesus as a way to condemn homosexuality. I don't believe he would ever denounce any one group. I think that would go against everything that he is. You're telling me he could forgive thieves and murderers but not gays? That doesn't make sense. I don't understand how you can have such a strong dislike against a group that in no way hurts you. Let people be, it doesn't concern you if they don't hurt anybody. Ever hear of the quote "Love one another as you love yourself."
I think many of you took this comment too literally. Maybe thats the way aussie meant it but I took it as this: Whether you believe in religion or evolution, our biological make-up requires heterosexuality in order to reproduce. If you are a religious person odds are you are against homosexuality simply because this is what your beliefs are. If you tend to believe in evolution and darwinism then commen sense would lead us to believe that we evolved in a way that meant for man to procreate with woman. We wouldn't evolve to become a species that cannot reproduce. Again, I am not stating that we are going extinct. I am simply stating how I understood aussie's comment and I think many of you jumped the gun and misinterpreted the comment.
But this is an erroneous view of evolution. An individual being unable to reproduce is not a failure for the species. There are specific fitness advantages to having some sterile members of a society (worker bees are a good example). Of course, numerous people have already brought this up in this thread, but the usual suspects continue to guard their intollerance with profound ignorance.
Those cultures had homosexuality acceptance long before their decline, and there really isn't any evidence to show that homosexuality contributed to their decline. As far as your biblical argument about Jesus sitting with them to and then sending them away to their fate, that story is no where in the bible. You made that inference yourself which may or may not be correct.
I am guarding my intollerance with profound ignorance? Or was that directed at someone else? I don't believe I declared my beliefs about homosexuality. I was simply stating how I understood Aussie's original comment. Correct me if I am wrong but did you just compare the homosexual community (a group within our society that cannot physically reproduce) to worker bees? That makes me laugh.
gay isn't a race, or eye color, or, size of limb, or etc. iow, its not something that has developed as we've evolved. its a lifestyle, I don't agree with oddson, but i don't think this is a valid response to the evolution question
agreed, but transgendered jews for jesus, who go both ways, and have muslim friends, should pe praised.
Really? So being "straight" is a lifestyle? Or are you just straight? In other words, I am not "choosing" to be straight, I just am. Do you really think gay folk or any different?
Maybe not, but there are studies that point to that being the case. Again why is it so prevalent in other species in nature then?
Will everyone stick to their word if it is discovered, for example, that the urge to murger is genetic and that some people are more prone to the act than others? I've always wondered this. Whether something being genetic means acting on it should be legal. Must admit that I don't exactly understand the whole genetics argument.
Again, why are we comparing our species (which is the most advanced in terms of evolution) to other species that inhabit this planet. The closest comparison you could make in terms of evolution is to apes. I have never seen or known of a homosexual ape (that sounds comedic). And even if there was, you would be seriously lowering our species on the evolutionary totem pole to compare us to that.
We are comparing because we share a lot in common with other species, especially the way we interact sexually and reproduce. Chimps which are apes share a 98.5% gene identity with humans. That really isn't lowering it that much.
According to wiki: Homosexual sexual behavior occurs in the animal kingdom, especially in social species, particularly in marine birds and mammals, monkeys, and the great apes. Homosexual behavior has been observed among 1,500 species and is well documented in 500.[143][144] For example, male penguin couples have been documented to mate for life, build nests together, and to use a stone as a surrogate egg in nesting and brooding. In 2004, the Central Park Zoo replaced one male penguin couple's stone with a fertile egg, which the couple then raised as their own offspring.[145] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual_behavior_in_animals
