I hear you. I just think that Landry is the prototype of an off the bench type of player because of his age and balls-out style of play. Simply put, he is our Paul Millsap. I also think that Scola is a fine scorer. He certainly hasn't earned a starting role because of his defense. He does make some nice defensive plays but they are usually based on taking risks (steals, taking charges, etc...). He hasn't proven to be a consistent, lock-down defender at this point.
They are two completely different kind of players.. I just love the fact that we have the luxury of having both of them.
you know you make some really excellent posts man. I think you might be the best poster we have on clutchbbs. it's amazing how thought out, rational, and logically constructed your arguments are and how grounded in basketball knowledge. i mean, rafter only scored 13 points tonight but bobby jackson scored SIXTEEN. 16 is better than 13 man! plus he hit that 3 pointer this game! he must be better! and rafer is such a chucker and plays "me" ball! and bobby jackson never went 2 for 11 against the pacers or put up 1 for 7 against NO. nah he's awesome, rafer is the only shooter in the NBA who has off nights. when rafer misses there's just no basketball reason for it, it's just cuz he's been greedy and not right in the head. finally it's just so classy to dump on a guy who literally drove our 22 game win... including singlehandedly delivering versus the Fakers. from a basketball perspective, you definitely need to talk about "taking" one over the other. I mean on one hand you have a guy who gives you 35 minutes and 13 ppg and on the other a 16 minute/6 ppg guy. with the game being 48 minutes, you definitely cant use both. you cant have one guy start and the other guy come off the bench and support both your guys. you definitely got to slam one and start picking one over the other... hate to do it but there's just not enough minutes to play both. like everything I post this is a really important argument.
Landery is so important to the team, esp. in the 4th quater. one of the key players for winning a game
Laughing thinking about all the guys here who wanted to trade Landry at the beginning of the season or just waive the dude.
Carl isn't quite the offensive threat some of you make him out to be. He's got a decent jump shot when he gets an open look. But all of his points in the paint come off of somebody else creating and opportunity for him. I really haven't seen his post up game yet. He's not a guy you can just hand the ball off to and say "OK, go get us some points." Scola actually has some quirky post moves that have been quite successful. Landry is good at cutting to the basket for open looks. In that sense, he's a Chuck Hayes who can finish. I think Carl is a little better on the boards. Scola is crafty when it comes to rebounds but Landry can muscle some away from the opponent. Scola is still averaging 9 RPG this month since his minutes went up to 30 per game in Landry's absense. Scola is better at defense in general and better at drawing charges but he can't hang with some of the bigger boys. Landry is shorter but has more bulk. It would have been interesting to see him go up against KG. But I'm not sure he could have done any better. Also, Scola's been pretty good recently at flashing out on a double team against the opposing PG and has gotten a couple of steals that way in recent games.
Even though both play with alot of heart. I believe that their style of play is different enough that against some teams Landry is better, and Scola better in others. Which teams are those, well that's for another thread.
i want to know if anyone elso agrees with me. i think that CARL will be the next ROX franchise player. i know Scola is also awesome but Carl is the **** and by no means should he not be with the ROX in the next 5-10 yrs he should recieve a max contract ASAP. if he played in the last 2 game we would have won at least 1. what do yall think bout this
Personally, I'd start Scola at the PF and Landry at the SF. And have Battier coming off the bench as the main defensive stopper.
I dont think it really matters who starts. I see them both being about 28-34 min per game players next year depending on matchups. The nice thing is they both are able to hold down the fort at backup center so they can both play beyond the PF mins.
It would be absurd for the Rox to give Landry a max deal. Boozer was drafted at about the same spot, had much more of an impact for Cleveland and never got a max deal. Im not saying he isnt going to be a great player, but no way has he earned anywhere near max money. i dont even know if he can command the full MLE next year. He has played great, but his game sample is about half a season and he has blown out a knee before and had mysterious swelling in that knee again this year. Not a max deal scenario.
Well, Scola plays better with Yao. Yao gets double a lot in the low post and Scola is open in the high post and he can hit jumper. Landry plays better with T-Mac, with the pick and roll.
I like Landry b/c a dunk is a higher percentage shot than Scola's layups. Plus those spin moves in the paint aren't working out for Scola.
Scola is still playing with hustle, but you can tell he has sort of hit the rookie wall. His little short jumper has disappeared. On the other hand, Landry still looks fresh and really hasn't played much this year. They both are awesome.
Landry's explosiveness in the paint really put an exclamation point on the end. The guys is just too strong, to quick for any defender.
They can't be separated: Carluis Scolandry. One for all, all for one. Actually, I kind of like them on the floor together. Really doesn't matter who starts. If BJ keeps playing well, I wouldn't mind him getting more of Rafer's minutes, especially Rafer's shots.
naw... Both guys bring something different, but I don't buy this "Landry's gonna get much better" stuff. He's already 24, he probably will get better but its far from the kind of potential you would get from 20 yr old. Their about just as good right now but its obvious Landry is more needed because he benefits from our passers without changing the offense. I was just talking about the crazy senario you came up with. Knicks in the finals?
