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It's official...Ann Coulter has totally lost it

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  1. mc mark

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    BTW if anyone is interested, Coulter is going to be on Leno tonight.....along with George Carlin.

    Should be must see TV


    "Tonight" host Jay Leno might want to consider wearing referee stripes on Wednesday's show when Ann Coulter and George Carlin are his guests.

    Coulter, the acid-tongued conservative with a new book out, and Carlin, the quick-witted, antiestablishment comedian who's in the voice cast for the new animated film "Cars," were booked at separate times for the NBC late-nighter, a spokeswoman said Monday.

    But the duo's meeting could produce serious fireworks for "Tonight," which usually limits its political fodder to Leno's bipartisan monologue jokes.
     
  2. giddyup

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    From NewsMax.com
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    Ann Coulter Wows Leno Audience

    Liberals may hate Ann Coulter, but the folks in the audience of Jay Leno’s "Tonight Show” roared their approval of the controversial author when she was introduced on Wednesday night.

    Asked by Leno to explain all the controversy surrounding her No. 1 best-selling book Coulter said: "Well, I wrote a book and liberals were hysterical. Every time I write a book liberals are hysterical. It happens all the time.”

    Noting that Leno had joked about her the night before, saying that like the Wicked Witch in "The Wizard of Oz” she had a house fall on her as a result of her book, Ann countered: "I just dropped my house on the mainstream media.” The audience cheered.

    Ann explained that before the book came out she gave it to her friends, including liberals, and not one of them complained about her remarks about the so-called Jersey Girls.

    "Not my friends, not my editors, not the lawyers and not the liberals, pulled out the chapter on the Jersey Girls,” she said. Coulter has drawn fire from some – including Hillary Clinton – for attacking the four New Jersey widows who pushed for an independent commission to investigate the 9/11 World Trade Center attacks that killed their husbands. Coulter accused the women of "reveling in their status as celebrities and stalked by grief-arazzis.”

    Commenting on Leno’s complaint that political discourse nowadays is so nasty, Coulter said: "We hear this all the time, about how civil things were back when there were only three TV stations” and nobody could talk back to the liberals.

    Now, she said, there has suddenly been an alleged "disruption of civility” only because conservatives can talk back thanks to talk radio, the Internet and Fox News.

    Asked if she is hurt by liberal attacks on her, Coulter said she wears them "as a badge of honor.” She added that she was surprised that liberals have failed to object to being called "Godless,” and have concentrated their fire on one small part of one chapter, when she criticized the Jersey Girls.

    The much anticipated fireworks between Coulter and acid-tongued comedian George Carlin never came off, with Carlin sitting beside Ann smiling and saying nothing throughout her conversation with Leno except to note that he had to "move to the right” to allow Ann to sit beside her host.

    During her 8 1/2 minutes on stage, Ann was interrupted by vigorous applause time and again.

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    Did anybody actually see the segment? Does this jibe with actuality?
     
  3. mc mark

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    :eek:

    Giddy, Nomar you going to find some way to defend this comment by Coutler?

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    Coulter suggests Congressman should be murdered --

    In an email interview with John Hawkins at the Right Wing News web site, Coulter was asked, among other things, to offer short comments on several individuals. After harmlessly dismissing former Ambassador Joseph Wilson as the "World's most intensely private exhibitionist," she said of Rep. John Murtha, the hawkish ex-Marine and now antiwar congressman: "The reason soldiers invented 'fragging.'"

    Fragging, which became a well-known expression --and occurence -- during the Vietnam war, means soldiers attempting to kill their own officers for one reason or another.

    This was so over the top that conservative Mike Krempasky at RedState.org posted, "I've said before that's its kind of ironic that just about every phrase Stewie from Family Guy uses to describe Lois could easily be applied to Ann Coulter. Well - once again, Ann proves us right." He went on to call her "fragging" remark absolutely "disgusting....there's no excuse - NONE - for the allusion to soldiers who kill other soldiers. It's despicable - and frankly, so is Coulter."

    http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1002689569
     
  4. robbie380

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    lol redstate.org....one extreme for another extreme.
     
  5. giddyup

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    Do you really take this seriously? We could waste a lot of time repairing the damage that comedians and pundits do. Stop taking it so seriously and literally. She is a pundit (I guess) not an elected official or a news anchor for gosh sakes.

    In case you've forgotten, I did criticize her choice of words-- albeit not as drastically as some of you here.
     
  6. Deckard

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    I don't know, giddy... it's hard to find the one or two mildly critical sentences in you posts about Cloulter amongst the dozens you've got defending her on this garbage.

    Sit back and smell the coffee, bro. You really don't need to defend this junk, in order to defend the Administration. True, you have your work cut out for you, regardless.



    Keep D&D Civil.
     
  7. Dairy Ashford

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    No, and the fact that it's in California makes it slightly more confusing: even though LA-area (Anaheim, Orange County) is large enough to be more politically diverse than Berkeley or SanFran. What might have happened was conservatives knew Ann was going to be there, and made sure to pack the audience that night to show their support for her. Remember the 2000 Reform Party convention, when all those pro-Buchanan delegates popped-up out of nowhere? Clearly, this is not nearly as conspiratorial (people obviously have the right to go to any talk show they want), but this just popped in my head as a similar analogy for conservatives showing up out of thin air.

    By the way, Ms. Coulter's latest column (www.anncoulter.com) repeatedly calls Bill Clinton a "rapist." Is this the type of comment that Coulter defends by claiming it's satire, or is she really trying to paint the Clintons into a corner? Don't forget, she worked pro-bono for the Paula Jones legal team. Granted she's done this before (just like calling Ted Kennedy a murderer), but I would think with both Coulter's and Hillary's higher visibility, and the fact that both are trained lawyers, this might prompt a libel/slander suit from the Clintons. Unless, of course...
     
  8. Mulder

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    Posting anything from Newsmax is as ridiculous as posting anything from moveon.org, if your trying to make ANYKIND of point.
     
  10. mc mark

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    Ann Coulter Republicans

    John Steinberg

    Manna is now being airlifted into Democratic hands. Will they have the will to use it?

    In an apparent (and successful) attempt to raise the profile of her new book, Ann Coulter went off. Again.

    Arch-conservative commentator Ann Coulter likes to shock, but she turned stunningly malicious in her new book "Godless: The Church of Liberalism." She referred in it to four outspoken widows whose husbands were killed in the 9/11 attacks as "self-obsessed women" and "witches" who are taking pleasure in their husbands' deaths.

    The widows, all from New Jersey, had gained attention for pressing the Bush administration to establish the 9/11 commission - an achievement that apparently rubbed Ms. Coulter the wrong way.

    The author, who is on tour promoting her book, wrote: "And by the way, how do we know their husbands weren't planning to divorce these harpies?"

    And lest you think that this sawed-off shotgun of a human being backed off after seeing the damage done:

    At her appearance at the Book Revue in Huntington, the rail-thin blonde was unapologetic.

    "No, I won't apologize. Yes, the 9/11 widows are witches and harpies," she said.

    Raw Story readers will most likely know that Ann Coulter has been the far right's designated brawler for some time. She's the one who called Max Cleland "lucky." Who said that John Walker Lindh should be executed "in order to physically intimidate liberals, by making them realize that they can be killed too." The one who said "My only regret with Timothy McVeigh is he did not go to the New York Times Building." The one who said "We need somebody to put rat poisoning in Justice Stevens' creme brulee." The one who said that Congressman John Murtha was "the reason soldiers invented 'fragging.'"


    When Michael Moore had the gall to confront Americans with the footage of our deer-in-the-headlights 9/11 President in 2004, Republicans were quick to force Democrats to distance themselves from such blasphemy. They savaged as "Michael Moore Democrats" all who would not disown him. That cleft has contributed to the alienation of the grass roots of the party from those who chose respectability over populism.

    In the fetid, malodorous bog that is the Republican ecosystem, in contrast, Coulter has found a warm, comfortable home. That place is as the basso profano in the tragicomic conservative opera buffa - the villain who gives voice to the evil the others feel but dare not speak. Coulter has completely adapted to the feedback loop that characterizes her surroundings: the more outrageous her rhetoric, the more media attention she gets. The more attention she gets, the more books she sells, and the more she gets paid for her lecture tour appearances, and so on. A "godless" Darwinian process has thus prevailed: survival of the foulest.

    Republicans (as well as their Stockholm-Syndromed counterparts in the press and the Democratic establishment) refer to the left blogosphere as a "fever swamp," yet the sulfurous venom that spews from Coulter's orifice creates nary a peep of Republican unease. Neither Universal Press Syndicate nor a single newspaper has dropped her syndicated toxin. And why should they? She sells papers, and blogospheric outrage is but a distant thunder for them.

    Coulter's ascendance is a manifestation of a deep and serious problem that has been building for many years. Republicans have been extraordinarily successful in casting large swaths of the Democratic loyalists as lepers. Democratic leaders have largely concurred in that diagnosis, and have been running away from their own supporters for more than a decade. As Stanford linguist Geoffrey Nunberg recently pointed out, the Democrats are so cowed they have acquiesced in the demonization of the word "liberal," which now battles for lead pariah status with the dread acronym "ACLU." In short, the greedy, venal wing of the Democratic Party has been cut loose from its only source of strength and differentiation from the greedy venal wing of the Republican Party. The cleavage has been devastatingly effective. Yet no serious attempt has been made to create a similar schism between fringe Republicans and those who stress fitness for polite company.

    If the pundit-class Democrats were waiting for an engraved invitation to that party, it just arrived.

    The question, "Are you an Ann Coulter Republican?" should confront every Republican running for every office in the land, from President to dog catcher. Every Democratic candidate should accuse his or her opponent of being in favor of poisoning Supreme Court Justices and killing Congressmen. At every opportunity, every Republican should be made to answer: "Do you agree with Ann Coulter that the 9/11 widows are witches and harpies?" And George W. Bush, Tony Snow, Dick Cheney, Laura Bush and Barney (the only lapdog with a good excuse) should be confronted with these questions as well.

    Republicans have been able to maintain a Kabuki symbiosis with all manner of cave-dwellers by speaking in an elaborate, dog whistle-like code. They hold racists, homophobes and rapture acolytes close enough to keep their votes without ever having to either publicly embrace or disavow such extreme viewpoints. That relationship with white-sheet America has been essential to their electoral strategy for decades.

    But Ann Coulter has furnished us with a turn-key solution. We can now easily put them in the logical fork they should have been forced into years ago: disavow Coulter's vile, sub-human ravings, or embrace them. If they distance themselves from her, they risk alienating the mouth-breathers who demand such red meat as the price of their loyalty. If they embrace her, they lose significant swaths of the middle - the decent folks who are the reason Republicans talk about Dred Scott and "state's rights" rather than criminalizing abortion and gutting civil rights laws.

    Which chess piece will Republicans sacrifice? I suspect it will vary. New York Governor George Pataki is one of the few Republicans to come out against Coulter, but that's a freebee - 9/11 happened in his state, and he appears to have no higher ambitions. Deep southerners in local races will probably embrace her. But what will John McCain do? I don't see how he can answer that question and still become President. Rudy Giuliani? He has already shown he'd rather run into a burning building. Bill Frist would prefer to declare himself to be in a persistent vegetative state. The list of high-profile Republicans desperate not to confront the Coulter question is very long.

    Many lefties wonder why we give Coulter the prominence she so clearly craves. They think we lose by raising her profile. But I think she is exactly the hate-contorted face we want on the Republican Party. We need to make Ann Coulter the third rail of Republican politics, just as Michael Moore was for Democrats two years ago. (They can be equally significant as symbols; there is obviously no comparison in talent or accuracy.)

    How will the Republicans choose? It matters little, so long as we force them to go one way or the other. Humanity lines up against her. But if they prefer to align with her, perhaps we can finally have an honest confrontation between an unmasked, rabid radical right and the rest of us.

    John Steinberg is a Senior Recidivist with the Poor Man Institute for Freedom and Democracy and a Pony. He bloviates regularly @ www.bluememe.blogspot.com.

    http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Ann_Coulter_Republicans_0622.html
     
  11. ROXRAN

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    Ann Coulter is the envy of the pussyfooters for crying out loud against America.org...

    They wish they could add someone of such brain, wit, and beauty to the anti-americana causation! :mad:
     
  12. rhadamanthus

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    The real beauty of Coulter is how well she demonstrates the hypocritical and spineless attitude of many "post-9/11" (whatever that means) republicans.

    Soldiers are heroes, unless they criticize the administration.

    Those who suffered loss in the 9/11 attacks should be used as rationale for any US action, unless they call for an investigation into those same losses - then they're harpies.

    Painting a real and frightening picture of the death and violence in Iraq is "unpatriotic", but suggesting liberals are traitors and should be executed is understandable.

    Coulter seeks to make liberalism the new "communism", nevermind that liberalism (in the proper definition) is what the US was founded upon. Liberalism to Coulter is simply "anybody who disagrees with me". That's not insightful or philosophic, it's pandering to a violent and fearful attitude, a people so afraid of terrorism and the country's welfare that they'd rather listen to a shill like Coulter, than actually go the ballot box and start fixing the problem. The problems are so real and so big, that looking at them head on is too intimidating - and Coulter exploits this, and cashes in.
     
  13. FranchiseBlade

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    That is a great article. The Democrats aboslutely should use that tactic. They should hammer it over and over. I can only hope they will. They seem so weak willed, spineless, and disjointed, however.
     
  14. ROXRAN

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    Don't forget to add "progressiveism" to the list as well...
     
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    That sums it up very nicely. The funny thing about your on point summary and Ann herself is that nobody can debate it, because she has no substance to debate. In addition the folks that like her aren't serious themselves. They play the TJ game. I guess that says something that the only people who claim to like Coulter have to do it in an over the top clowny Steven Colbert(but serious) kind of way.
     
  16. mc mark

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    that's about right
     
  17. ROXRAN

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    Admit you have to continuously talk about it, because quite frankly you are jealous...Jealous of the impact she puts forth out in the public eye...Or else you wouldn't be having the group session talk with the backslapping pussyfooters of crying out loud against America gang...Please continue though...This is good therapy for you and I encourage it...
     
  18. mc mark

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    Hey Rox do you favor poisoning Supreme Court Justices and killing Congressmen? Are you an Ann Coulter Republican?
     
  19. FranchiseBlade

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    This is exactly my point. Thanks for entering on cue.
     
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    Just beautiful.

    No substance, all vehemence, yet so over the top and idiotic one does not take it seriously. Thus the problem, you take it very seriously - even though you have no idea what political attitude is being embraced other than "I disagree with you".
     

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