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It's official...Ann Coulter has totally lost it

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by leroy, Jan 27, 2006.

  1. gwayneco

    gwayneco Contributing Member

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    I thought musicians were supposed to be peaceful, or were you referring to last Thursday?
     
  2. RocketMan Tex

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    You didn't see me participating in fisticuffs last week, did you?

    I was in the safest place in the club....on stage!! :D:D:D
     
  3. gwayneco

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    Ah, I thought you meant that the musicians would attack me :D . You know I had never seen that before at any of music shows that I've been to, and I've been to a lot.
     
  4. RocketMan Tex

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    That was the first time I had seen one from the stage since I lived in Los Angeles.

    It's funny the way music works sometimes....alcohol and rock makes people want to fight, while alcohol and blues makes men and women want to do the nasty! :D
     
  5. Batman Jones

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    Kerry blogs about Coulter

    06.08.2006

    Shameless, But the Real Shame Is If We Don't Act
    by John Kerry


    When I heard on cable television what Ann Coulter wrote and said about the widows of 9/11, my first reaction was pretty much unprintable. I have no apologies for it. Did this woman ever for a second stop and think that these womens' children might be watching TV and have to listen to her venomous words? So much for family values.

    Then I thought: grotesque as it is, this is her attempt to be provocative -- infamy's its own kind of fame -- to get her mug on TV and sell books. Coulter is counting on this "controversy" to get her ink and sell her angry harangue of a book.

    Which is why we owe all the 9/11 families Ann Coulter slandered so much more than just outrage.

    We owe them thanks. Lorie Van Auken, Mindy Kleinberg, Patty Casazza, Kristen Breitweiser, and Monica Gabrielle -- and others -- provided an incredible service to each of us. And we also owe it to them to put the focus where they originally put it when, in the middle of their grieving, they stood up to demand answers and action from a government that invoked their husbands' memories for political reason but then wiped them away when the real work of fighting terror and providing homeland security got to be too tough and less ideologically attractive compared to a sideshow disaster in Iraq.

    These women weren't and still aren't "in politics." Many voted for George Bush in 2000, some voted for me in 2004 and I was proud to have their support. They're independent-minded, they're their own people. They take homeland security more personally than many Members of Congress -- and they take it more seriously. These are women whose sole mission is to make our country as safe as it can and should be -- so the same thing that happened to their husbands will never happen to someone else's, or to their children. Think about what they accomplished -- bottom line: We would not have had the 9/11 Commission and their recommendations to make America safer without these brave women.

    The tragedy of this whole thing goes far beyond what Coulter said -- it's that everything these women have been fighting for since September 11, 2001, still is not done. Countless recommendations made by the 9/11 Commission still aren't implemented. First President Bush resisted the creation of the 9/11 Commission, then he put up road blocks to its investigation, and still today he has failed to implement all its recommendations. We don't have the port security the 9/11 Commission said we need. We don't have the border security the 9/11 Commission said we need. And Osama bin Laden remains on the loose -- while we've got 132,000 troops bogged down in Iraq who should be hunting down this mass murderer.

    I think about these survivors of 9/11 -- tough determined women -- and I kick myself above all that our country hasn't done the things they fought for. They could've gone off quietly, tried to put their lives back together, and who would have blamed them. But they didn't, they pressed on -- and Ann Coulter's shrill attacks only add insult to government incompetence.

    Want to really irk Ann Coulter and at the same time help take these womens' brave fight a little closer to victory?

    Get on the phone to any television program that has Ann Coulter on, and demand they press her not on her callous attacks, but on which recommendations of the 9/11 Commission she thinks should be forgotten. Which ports does she think should be left unsecured. Make the 9/11 widows' issues follow this fool everywhere she goes.

    And take Peter Daou's cue -- he's got a very smart take on this: make the Republicans who think Coulter's so witty own her repellant words. Read what Peter wrote at http://www.huffingtonpost.com/peter-daou/tim-russert-will-you-ask_b_22447.html Make her a liability -- and test whether the GOP is ashamed of Ann Coulter, or just embarassed by her.

    But above all, don't forget what these strong, tough women of 9/11 have done for all of us. They've got more class and grit and character than Ann Coulter will ever know.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-kerry/shameless-but-the-real-s_b_22505.html
     
  6. bigtexxx

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    Bats - haven't seen you in the Zarqawi thread. No comment from you?
     
  7. Batman Jones

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    Zarqawi was a mass murderer and I'm glad he's dead. Kudos to everyone involved in getting it done. What else do you want me to say? I would have thought that the above would have been obvious. And I don't generally feel the need to state the obvious in order that some net nerd won't say I love terrorists. But there you go.

    Now, in trade, I would like to know whether you support or denounce Ann Coulter and her vile hate speech against 9/11 victims. tia
     
  8. rhadamanthus

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    I'm convinced Coulter and similar rabid morons of her disposition have no clue what liberalism even is.
     
  9. Burzmali

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    Amen.
     
  10. bigtexxx

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    Ok, I'm glad you feel the same way I do about Zarqawi. I ask in the future that you celebrate the troops' victories in the same manner that the liberals like to highlights their failures.

    re: Coulter - not sure she really believes what she said (although the actions of some of those 9/11 widows are indeed questionable...), but she has succeeded in getting attention and riling up a lot of you folks. She'll probably sell more books because of it.
     
  11. rimbaud

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    Don't believe his lies, texx. Bats is furious because he was Zarqawi's gay lover. Not that they were in love with each other, you see, they were unified in their love of hating "America". They were in love with hating freedom and democracy and would look into each other's eyes and see heart-shaped WMD's. Now Bats is devastated and feels impotent to combat the evil "America". He will avenge Zarky (that was his pet name for him) before his final breath on this earth. He will be feared. You shouldn't be surprised as Bats is a...liberal.
     
  12. geeimsobored

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    Although you didn't really say whether or not you agree with her, that part above was key.

    Her statements and positions are so non-sensical and unwarranted that either she's just really really out of touch or she's just using confrontational tactics and controversial rhetoric to get her name out there. If she didn't do that, she'd be just another conservative who writes books but thanks to her much more divisive and angry, if not downright ludicrous criticisms, she's gotten much much more exposure than a lot of other writers.

    Just ignore her and stop wasting time on this subject. It's like those people who go on O'Reilly's show to convince him that he's wrong. You can't win that fight unless you can yell louder and O'Reilly is pretty good at yelling, screaming, and throwing out unwarranted insults.
     
  13. Batman Jones

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    I ask in the future that you stop spewing this crap about liberals "liking" to "highlight" failures in the Iraq war. I do not like it when the troops fail and I do not like it when small minorities of them commit crimes against humanity, but I do think we should know about it. You think we shouldn't and that it hurts our cause. I disagree with that, but that does not translate into me "liking" American failure nor does reporting problems there equal "highlighting" them. Were there any controversy whatsoever about whether Zarqawi's death was a good or bad thing, were there anyone here arguing it was a bad thing, you can be assured I would be posting plenty about it.

    Nice dodge. Answer the question. Do you support or denounce Ann Coulter and her statements about the 9/11 widows? You bet I'm riled up by someone going on national TV and saying that the victims of 9/11 are harpies that are happy their husbands are dead. Why aren't you?
     
  14. mc mark

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    I love how this is the stock answer from the conservatives about Coulter. Almost verbatim from giddy's and gweenie's response.

    "Oh she's not serious!" "She's just making jokes!"

    This is their way of agreeing with her without taking responsibility.

    I guarantee if Moore or any other liberal started spewing vomit about assassinating bush or clubbing conservatives with baseball bats or calling the wives of dead troops "witches" and "harpies," there wouldn't be enough bandwidth on this board for them to crucify them.

    But oh no! She's just joking to sell books and she's just amusing.

    disgusting
     
  15. Batman Jones

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    That's exactly right, mc mark. That's why I disagree with geeimsobored. I want an answer from every "conservative" that Coulter represents on the talk shows as to whether they support or denounce her vile hate speech. We already know Nomar supports it and her. I will take the refusal of gwayneco, giddyup and texxx to honestly and directly answer the question to mean that they do too unless they explicitly say otherwise.
     
  16. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Although I tend to be conservative, I do not feel that Coulter represents me. That being said, regardless of what her intent was, her remarks are ridiculous, incendiary and heartless.

    Her remarks are not some that should be written off as "she's just trying to sell books or garner publicity". She is well-known enough that she can hit the talk show circuit without the need for ridiculous rhetoric. I have no idea what she is hoping to accomplish. It is sad if she truly feels that way. It is doubly sad if she made those remarks to make a few bucks.
     
  17. gifford1967

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    Coulter, Great wingnut author or greatest wingnut author?

    We'll put you down for Great.
     
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    So, if you think this is a good point, then I assume that now conservatives will refrain from using a "support our brave troops" or "9-11 changed everything" argument when others offer criticism of the administration. Same thing, no? An emotional appeal used to stop reasoned discourse from turning against a favored position. Only difference is, the widows are arguing in a reasoned way about the policies and practices of this administration and without the above two catchphrases, cons would be reduced to even more inane mutterings as they try to prop up a miserable failure.

    Also...

    Batman forgot we met in Albuquerque and got really toasted while celebrating the brutal Al-Z beheading of Nicholas Berg. Oh, man... good times. And then there was that time Al-Z bombed the UN HQ in Baghdad and killed those 22 people. What crazy things Batman did that night! Ooops, I almost forgot the time Al-Z car-bombed the Holy Shrine in Najaf and killed 100 people. Hilarity ensued. I couldn't stop talking to my wife (who's currently undergoing a sex change operation so we can further undermine the insititution of marriage) about the love I share for Al-Z with my fellow liberals and how much we hate America. I'm really sad Al-Z's dead and I'm really worried about Batman... he was so cute holding out hope, but now he's in quite the depressed state since the death was confirmed. I guess we all are...

    No wait, for some reason I seem to be channeling bigteXXX's fantasies. Nevermind.
     
  19. gwayneco

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    Some criticisms are reasonable, but others are just BusH!tlerism. And a lot of the critics want America to lose just to beat up on Bush.

    I don't care for Coulter's tone. She takes a good point but then pushes it too far. Having said that, I suspect the BusH!tlerists would rather that she was dead instead of Zarqawi.
     
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  20. mc mark

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    If you believe that your just as much of an idiot as Coulter is.
     

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