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It's inevitable, trade is coming soon.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by coolweather, Jan 16, 2010.

  1. jopatmc

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    Dunno. But Dalembert is very athletic and always has been, no question about that. The major drawback with Dalembert is his intelligence level. He is NEVER going to understand or be effective in a complex halfcourt set offense. He just doesn't have the brain cells to comprehend and see the floor. He's simply a dog out there, just sniff and chase, go after the ball, throw it to a handle, run the floor, finish and board. Frankly, I think there is room for one Dalembert on a team, especially if that team is primarily a running team. He would be very useful on this unit, especially coming off the bench with the running unit.

    And the whole deal is, he is an expiring next year. He becomes very tradable to another poor performing team that is trying to rebuild and get out from underneath long term salary.

    My thought is this: IF...........Morey can get Speights to go along with Dalembert and Iguodala........and if nothing better materializes......I think that would be a great value trade for McGrady's and Cook's expiring deals.....and would even be worth throwing in one of our young'ns for. If you haven't seen Speights play..............check him out. He's coming off an injury but he definitely has skills on both ends, nice midrange jump shot, hook shot down low. He's a good young big on a rookie deal.
     
  2. Rockets4279

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    If we got Speights in such a deal that is a steal.
     
  3. saleem

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    They are big assets,and other teams covet them. I don't want to give them up.
     
  4. DaneB

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    I think that Dalembert would be great because he would be the backup shotblocking center that we have missed once Dikembe went down. That's all we would ask out of him. I also agree, his contract would be some great trade bait for a team next season, but we do need some financial flexibility to sign our players this offseason! Doesn't Landry and Scola become free agents this summer?
     
  5. Dubious

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    Did anybody ever expect more from this season than to maybe overachieve and to get into one of the last playoff spots?

    Any deal done for Tracy will be to position the team for next year and beyond.
    If it helps us get into the playoffs this year, that's just gravy.
     
  6. Castro

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  7. Hakeemtheking

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    I have been advocating that trade. The killer thing is that Dalembert has that 15% trade kicker.

    This team would be considerably better with Dalembert, Iggy and Speights.
     
  8. LongTimeFan

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    There is a 0% chance the Rockets let McGrady expire.

    At worst, they'll deal him for other expirings or buy him out. If the Rockets don't trade McGrady, he's going to be pissed - this is his contract year and he needs to find the court to show teams he's still worth a paycheck. If the Rockets don't trade him, you'll see McGrady lash out in the media against the team. The Rockets will either trade him or buy him out - there's no way the Rockets would put up with a half-season of McGrady b*tching to the media about how the team isn't giving him a chance to play or latch on to somewhere else.

    In discussing trade talks, Morey has also mentioned attempting to do right by McGrady. While they may have burned bridges, there's no way Morey forces him to stay on the roster all season and not play. He'll be traded or bought out - I 100% guarantee it.
     
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    I am sure they can put up with McGrady's b*tching to the media for another 2 months after the tradeline. What's 2 more months compared to his 6 years of b*tching to the media? 2 months compared to 6 years is only a drop in an ocean with million of gallons of water.
     
  10. Sooner423

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    You definitely don't mind selling that couple of hens though...
     
  11. DaDakota

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    I am not saying he would not be bought out, I am saying Morey will make a deal only if it is good for the Rockets, he will not for one second consider Tracy's needs in this whole thing, nor should he....

    He is not Tracy's GM, he is the Rocket's GM...

    And if there is no deal he thinks makes sense for the Rockets GOING FORWARD, he will sit on Tmac's contract.

    And at that point, it will be up to Tmac to come and make MAJOR salary concessions to get a buyout.

    Something like $4 million off this year to get the team under the Lux tax, and get his freedom, because otherwise, it makes no sense to do anything but let him rot.

    I know Morey may seem like a nice guy, but I can PROMISE you he is going to do whatever is best, regardless of Tmac's feelings.

    And don't forget if they let him expire they have his S&T rights, to where if any team wants to offer more than the MLE without cap room, they could still make a deal.....

    DD
     
  12. RV6

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    i dont get the reasoning here. first, i'ts not the easiest part of our schedule, the second half as a whole is suppose to be, not one week in mid january. Technically half of our losing funk lately was still within that tough schedule stretch.

    Second of all, why would losing make Morey consider a trade, as if he hasnt been for the whole season, especially the last month or so? I mean, do we honestly believe if we were winning Morey would just call up Tmac and say "guess what, we're gonna keep u afterall"...no, whether we win or lose the tmac situation is head for a trade, winning or losing isn't going to decided whether he's traded, the quality of the offer will.

    and i have no third of all :grin:
     
  13. desi tmac91

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    The Rockets are 2-5 in 2010.

    @ Hornets: 99-95
    @ Lakers: 88-79
    @ Suns: 118-110

    Knicks: 105-96
    @Bobcats: 102-94
    Timberwolves: 120-114
    Heat: 115-106

    It took three overtimes to beat the worst team in the Western Conference.

    Rocket statistics for 2010

    Aaron Brooks


    Averages: 22.3 points per game, 4.3 assists, 1 steal and 3 turnovers.
    Shooting: 45% FG, 43.1% 3P, 84.4% FT.

    Carl Landry

    Averages: 14.7 points per game, 4.6 rebounds, 0.9 steals, 0.6 blocks and 1.6 turnovers.
    Shooting: 52.5% FG, 70.4% FT.

    Trevor Ariza

    Averages: 15.6 points per game, 5.0 rebounds, 4.1 assists, 1.6 steals and 3 turnovers.
    Shooting: 40.4% FG, 29.5% 3P, 69.6% FT.

    Luis Scola

    Averages: 15.9 points per game, 6.1 rebounds, 1.7 turnovers.
    Shooting: 55.6% FG, 68.8% FT.

    Shane Battier

    Averages: 7.1 points per game, 5.7 rebounds, 3.1 assists, 1 steal, 1.1 blocks and 1.4 turnovers.
    Shooting: 30.9% FG, 32.4% 3P, 55.6% FT.

    Out of the Rockets top 5 players, Ariza has been streaky and Shane has been awful shooting wise. Lowry is in that boat as well while Brooks, Scola, and Landry have been efficient.

    Do you think this is merely a slump or have opposing teams found out how to beat the starless Rockets?
     
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    You don't change the menu when the chef burns a steak
     
  15. rock34

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    He won't trade now. He will wait until the trade deadline when teams might me a little bit more desperate. If he trades now it only shows that we are desperate.

    As long as the rockets are close to the playoffs DM is okay. He is not looking to win a championship this year, he is building for the future while trying to stay competitive now.
     
  16. tehG l i d e

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    You also can't forget we barely got past the Nets when they were getting blown out by everybody else..
     
  17. worzel gummidge

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    Bobcats are now 15-4 at home and beat the Spurs by 16pts last night.
     
  18. LongTimeFan

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    I honestly don't believe there's even a chance the Rockets would do it. That would be a huge PR problem - the organization would essentially be holding a player hostage who needs to play to show he'd be worth a contract this coming season. That would make them look very bad in the eyes of most (except us who are tired of McGrady's acts). The same thing happened to Marbury, and he was eventually bought out. I just can't see any way Morey keeps McGrady if he can't find a suitable trade for him. The "opposed to buyout" stance that was reported is, IMO, just a front so Morey can get a teams full offer without them thinking they can low ball us and wait for him to be bought out.

    I was more commenting on you saying Morey would let his contract expire. I wholeheartedly disagree - I think the only options are trade or buy-out.

    McGrady's S-n-T rights are worthless, so that isn't much of an argument. I'd be willing to bet anyone McGrady won't be signed and traded.. hell, what team would even want to give him the full MLE without seeing him play in 1.5 years? Or even seeing him play well in 2 years? His stint last year with the Rockets was awful, and he hasn't really played since.. no chance he gets more than the MLE if he stays exiled on Rocket island.

    I'm not saying Morey would make a deal with solely McGrady's interest in mind, that would be idiotic. If he's traded, it will be for the best deal Morey can get without caring if McGrady likes the city he's going to. However, if he's not traded, Morey isn't going to force him to sit out the entire year - he will be bought out. The specifics of what he'll have to give up to be bought out I'll leave to others, but I feel strongly there is 0% chance the Rockets will keep him on the roster.

    He was banished from the team because he was becoming a distraction this season. To his credit, McGrady has remained quiet and (hopefully) working hard on his rehab. However, if McGrady isn't moved, I don't think he's content to sit by quiet anymore. You'll start hearing a lot from him.. someone whose never afraid to speak his mind - and that would be a PR disaster for the Rockets.
     
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    Since when has there been a trade for us to take on both Brand and Dalembert? I think the answer is never...

    A trade needs to happen soon. We're already seeing trade proposals pop up (however true they are, or not). The Rockets are getting more competition closer to the trade deadline. Sometimes, it isn't always best to wait until the end to do a trade.
     

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