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It's hard to Argue against good D

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Old Man Rock, Dec 4, 2006.

  1. Outlier

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    Um on the contrary, that's you most of the time especially when you're talking about JVG and especially when someone defends JVG, you call them names. So stop being such a hypocrite :rolleyes:
     
  2. Old Man Rock

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    Geez what is it idiot night. I never denied I donot care for Van Gundy. I do not like his personality and unless he changes it probably never will. But I have never wished for the Rockets to lose unless they were in the lottery. My problems have been very specific with him. I don't like his negative attitude and the way he treats some players worst than others and that started long ago with Yao and has continued with other players. Now if he can be a bit positive and the Rockets continue to win I will be fine with him as our coach. I thought he did a good job tonight. Do you get it now?
     
  3. rimbaud

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    OK, one last time. You don't like Van Gundy. To you, it is the truth that he sucks. You expected things to get worse after a good game on Friday. Other people have argued with you about Van Gundy and say things such as "we are doing well" and "look at our record". Your response has essentially been that that is true and good and all, but things will get worse because Van Gundy sucks. That is all negative. If we sucked you would not like it but you would feel right. Your argument is helped if we suck (I know you would like for the Rockets to win - that is obvious, but in order vor it to be proven that Van Gundy sucks he and the Rockets must ultimately suck). I am not attempting to read your mind (although I am horribly stupid and a huge idiot...borderline literate) and I am unsure where you get the "you think everything you say is the truth" attack because none of this has anything to do with my ideas.

    I am an idiot. I am ugly. I think my prostate hurts.
     
  4. Riz

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    Ok... Do you know JVG personally?? and by reading so many posts you posted in this thread talking about how JVG is, it seems to me that u do know him pretty well and personally thats why your saying all these things about him.

    and if you dont know him well enough to say things you've been saying... I dont know about you but I've always been taught not to judge people just by their actions!!! you HAVE to know them personally in order to judge them.

    this whole thread was a waste of time. You started off by saying "It's hard to argue against JVG right now because the Rockets are winning and are playing excellent d. And if you can't acknowledge that than you are strictly a JVG hater and will never defer." and yet you wrote an essay dogging JVG so basically your referring to yourself by saying "you are strictly a JVG hater and will never defer."
     
  5. blazer_ben

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    And all are " Champioship winning coaches". there method must be working?.. righ? gundy might be an odd individual, but he still does get results. most the players he has coached have nothing but respect for his basketball know how.
     
  6. NIKEstrad

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    Idiot, ugly, and a hurt prostate? Are you Jeff Van Gundy?
     
  7. seclusion

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    you continue to impress with your completely irrelevant and frankly...dumb opinions about jvg and well...everything.
    all I had to do was read the first paragaph to know that the rest of that essay was drivel.
    I think I'm going to go ahead and ignore your posts from now on before I lose anymore iq points.
     
  8. Zinc

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    I think it is hard for some of us fans to like Van Gundy, I cannot imagine a brighter image of him being a warm, positive guy. Yet I was listening to sports radio the other day and guys were talking about the Bobby Knight case with young players (make sure he has no bussiness in this thread for discussion here), one caller who was a high school Bball coach called in, brought a nice point that his wife complained that he had totally different personalities during everyday life and coaching on the court. My point is: it does not matter what kind of person JVG really is as long as he gets it done. You can say he treats players differently, but if that is what it takes to get us what we want, so be it, and I do not know any coach would yell at T-mac, Popvich, maybe, :)

    As for the player or disciplinarian coach, or even control freak coach, it really think the definitions of these terms depends on different individual opinions. What really is a player coach? Like G. Karl? Who hugs player and turns around talking to the press? Larry Brown tried to be a player's coach to AI, so did Chicks, and AI is saying: either him or me stays. Or like JVG, who yell at them when they make mistakes and working on not making the same mistake next time, I know it is kinda cliche to bring up the JVG-L.Johnson-A. Mourning incident, but from that time I feel JVG got the hearts of players, and one thing I do know is that I never heard any player says crap about JVG after playing for him (maybe not when they are playing with him thou :D ), even SF3, I read something this season after Rox knicks game, he was giving some props to Van Gundy for what he did for the team and Yao. Another case is Swift after game with Rox this year told the press that JVG made him a better person. And we know that is not a easy task to accomplish after years in this tough, and highly competitive business. Nuff said, I guess what I was trying to say is that JVG looks more like a players' coach to me in my dictionary.

    I have to say I am not a JVG hater or lover, I just give props to hard working and diligance, and I do care about the outcome, yet I do not think we can get any achievement without mental and physical hard work.

    Never wrote so much in here, but that is my 2 cents.
     
  9. Old Man Rock

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    Please do, you'll be doing us both a favor, as I for one think you are a chicken **** piece of dunk!
     
  10. intergalactic

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    OldManRock, seems pretty obvious you just don't like JVG's personality, which is fair enough. As for me, I don't like looking at him -- HE BURNS MY EYES.

    But despite the massive glare coming off his bald head, I think he is a great coach. I haven't seen any evidence that his style causes players to play worse than they are capable, which is the main point.

    No, he doesn't treat every player exactly the same. But it's perfectly natural to treat your better, more important, players a little differently. It works that way in every team, company, or business in the world. Um, unless you're a communist.
     
  11. don grahamleone

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    You know how JVG is constantly yelling and putting people down and not letting rookies develop because he doesn't encourage? The same could be said about you and the way you treat JVG on here. The only difference is that he doesn't hear it because he probably doesn't read this board.
     
  12. BONIERO1576

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    Van Gundy should stop yelling on the sidelines during games, instead he should give the players on the bench foot rubs and constantly reaffirm that they are important, talented, good looking individuals.

    He should just leave V-span in the game after his 5th turnover in fifteen minutes, and just send out good vibes until he is overcome his feelings of inadequecy which will translate into better ball control.

    He should also light some aroma therapy candles around the bench and have the team hold hands and talk about their feelings prior to tip off.

    He should tell Bonzi that his weight and conditioning aren't important because fat men have a beautiful glow.

    He should also smile all the time and fart rainbows.

    GO BACK TO BURNING MAN YOU HIPPIE, THIS IS THE NBA!
     
  13. Old Man Rock

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    Yeah and after that he should have you pop out of his a$$ wearing nothing but green clovers singing "Catch me lucky charms there magically delicious!" GO back to jerking your Bonier 1576 times and quit trying to be intelligent!

    As for everyone else this thread is old. I am not looking for a perfect coach. He doesn't even have to be positive as clearly stated in his self proclamation just someone who treats his players reasonably the same. If he does that than scream away.

    Oh and for those who haven't read any of my other posts you should know I think he has actually done a decent job in coaching and being positive the last couple of games. Not that it matters what I think but at least be accurate in your complaints before you try to flame me.
     

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