Its going to take an empty home court for Les to panic and make a trade, STAY AWAY

That's just wrong. And for all of you trolls hiding behind the mods. Piss off!

 

Let me try to understand your point. You are saying we should pay to go watch the Rockets when it is obvious that the product on the court is not worth the the $ we spend on them (just because we can afford it). We should pay to watch a team with players that care more about the box score than the standings. Just because we don't agree with your opinion doesn't mean we are lesser fans. It's quite the contrary. I have true love for real basketball. My affiliation is with the Rockets not the players. I want what I believe is best for the Rockets and I plan to vote with my $$$. Afterall that is the American way. Do you think the Iraqi people are any less Iraqis just because they wanted Saddam out?

The joy of participation???? Have you been to the games lately? (I'm pretty sure you have.) Who really participates at the games any more? I can't even stand up to cheer for my team at the games because a bunch of blue hairs believe I am being too loud. The Rockets have basically priced the average fan out of the market . I am paying for a better arena with my tax dollars, I am paying for the better uniforms, but I refuse to spend another dollar on a ticket until this team learns to play basketball. The quality does not equal the expense. I am not paying $100/ticket to watch an AND1 tournament. I am not paying $100/ticket to watch Mo Taylor get beat down the court on defense. I am not paying $100/ticket to see 30% shooting. I am not paying $100/ticket to see a MAX contract player lose the ball on a 3-on-1 fast break....

What does this have to do with priorities? Why even bring up that point? We are all fortunate to be able to post at this site. We are fortunate to be able to voice our opinions. We are fortunate to be able to afford the option to go to the games. We do not need you to tell us that.

 

If you don't like Steve Francis then you are not a Rockets fan.


Signed Communist Rocket fans and the mods that defend them and their troll like ways.

 

If someone had blasted you the way you did, I would've said the exact same thing to them. What you said was over the top. Period.

 

Excellent!

 

No, I'm saying you have every right to not go if you don't want to go. That is absolutely your right. I'm just saying that the money or time you spend on the team doesn't automatically make you an expert and expecting the team to make on-court decisions based on fans in the turnstyles is a bad way to run a franchise.

No one is stopping you from cheering. If the "blue hairs" legitimately are telling you to stop cheering, you have a right to address that with the Rockets. That has nothing to do with the team.

First, I won't go into the taxpayer equation. I've spent enough of my life arguing that one.

As for the cost of tickets, I'm not disagreeing with you. Like you, I wish tickets were cheaper.

As for quality equalling expense, I'm in total agreement there. You certainly shouldn't spend your money if you don't think it is worth it. It's the reason why I won't spend $10 on a movie I don't want to see.

My point was that the $100 you spend on a ticket doesn't give you a say so in the personnel decisions of the team or how they are coached or the style of offense they play. You are free to complain when they lose and argue about what you'd like to see done, but there are people on here who honestly believe they have the solutions and that simply because they buy tickets, the Rockets management and coaching staff should be compelled to follow their wishes. That's what I disagree with.

I bring it up because so many people here act like the world is coming to an end when Yao gets blocked or Francis turns the ball over. There is no sense of supporting the team, only the sense that they suck and here's why. There is a fine line between being a fan with a critical eye and being just a critic.

It is MY OPINION that there are far too many critics, many of whom know little to nothing about the game of basketball. Their constant complaining and catastrophizing mixed in with the sentiment that, "I pay my hard earned money. The team should listen to me, damnit!" would be mildly annoying if it weren't so incessant and pervasive.

I've never seen fans actually talk about the greatness of other teams in the context of taking shots at the Rockets. I've never seen fans suggest that one of our players would be better off playing for another team. I've never seen fans actually side with officials over their own team's players. I hadn't ever seen any of that until this year. I don't know. Maybe I'm old school or something, but that doesn't seem like a fan to me.

Look, I'm the same guy that went through half a dozen remote controls during the championship years routinely smashing them on the floor of my apartment while watching games. I drank soda from the same stupid KTRH All Star mug for EVERY GAME for nearly four years. I've screamed and yelled and ranted about players or the team in general. But, I'm still a fan of the team and I don't allow that frustration to turn into hatred for the team. IMO, that is what some of the rants on this board have boardered on and I find that to be really sad.

 

I'm not sure where $100 a ticket comes from, but we do have 3500 tickets for $20 or less. That's far more than they have in a comparable markets, like, say, Dallas. The $100+ tickets, which are in the club sections and on the floor, are sold out every game.

It's pretty hard for me to make a case where ticket prices are too high based on that.

I'm not sure what any of this has to do with breast feeding, by the way, but I'm sure egn will let us know how it all ties together.

Tim

 

Excellent!

 

Jeff,
I have nothing but respect for you. I too had my own little campaign to keep the Rockets. I don't have to tell you how much I love the Rockets because it does not serve a purpose. Les is a great owner and I never fault him. But, this team is really hard to watch. It does not make me a lesser fan.

Tim,
I know how much the tickets are. I also know where I sit. The $100 was just easier to type. I will give you the benefit of the doubt but I almost believe that was a cheap shot at me. You state, "It's pretty hard for me to make a case where ticket prices are too high based on that." How about basing it on the turn out!

I know exactly how you guys price everything. I can put together a simple model to determine how the prices were determined. You guys are just maximizing your returns. I don't fault that. I never even said the tickets are too expensive. I said the Rockets priced the average fan out of the market. You responded to it as if I did. (sort of like a defense mechanism) I said I am not paying to watch this team until the quality improves. I've given the players enough time to learn. I am so tired of the excuses. I demand results. You can do all the marketing you want, a bad product is a bad product. Why are so many fans complaining about the way our players play the game? Except for Yao, Boki and JJ, I do not like the players. I can't remember the last time I didn't like almost all of our players. Our players now remind me of politicians. I really question the character of "our" players.

 

I dont know how many times I can say "Excellent, well said"...but you keep topping yourself with every post Jeff.

egn, i dont hide behind mods...I dont need to...I, unlike you , am actually a FAN of this team..have been for 30 years...

Ill rag on you as long as you persist in posting **** that gets brought to my attention thru other's posts....cause I dont see your crap firsthand...you have been on my ignore list for a loooong time.

I recognized you for what you are long ago...

take Sam's advice, go root for whatever team makes you happy, cause you certainly aint no Rockets fan.
Youdont like who they are, how they play, or anything else about the organization? Tuff ****...cause they aint changing to make you happy..so save us all your venom and misinformed trollish posts and go to another team that plays the way you like.

 

C'mon. Les is one of the best owners in the league but you don't really believe that Les cares more about winning than $$$. I consider myself the average person and the average person does not believe the first paragraph. You're losing credibility with me because of these types of statements.(Not that you care anyways)

And as for this thread being silly. Let me give you an analogy. I sell stock on a regular bases when I do not agree with the direction of the company. I vote with my $$$. In addition, although I am not a parent, I have seen $$$s taken away from their kids to force changes. I believe it works!

I am not advocating staying away. I am not paying until I see this group of athletes play as a TEAM!

 

Agreed completely. They are hard to watch. I'm with you on that.

 

Tim,you gotta go to games and watch this crap, but we don't..
I'd rather watch a good high school game..players show more emotion, and can shoot better than the rockets..
the thought that anybody should blindly support a team, because
they are from houston is crazy...If your boss and cd and jvg can't see the problems as they exist, then maybe this team need new ownership, or new front office...need I go to the bad contracts that you've signed that has hamstrung this team..how many people are the rox paying that are home watching tv like the rest of us tonite?
all the rox need to do is make something happen,let us know you care..
this mobley/farncia backcourt has been together too long, too many mistakes, too big of ballhogs, too full of themselves,no D, bad shooting...until rox show fans that they care then I hope they don't draw 10,000 rest if year..

 

that backcourt would be mobley/francis....sorry for misp.
get a little fired up when this issue comes up.....the next time I step into toyota center will be when I see that we as fans are not being played for fools...

 

This further proves that you are a communist fan.


I guess because I don't like Steve Francis and his play on the court means that i'm not a Rocket fan, right, commie?

I would like to know how you would even attempt to explain your reasoning? I need a laugh. I suppose you would carry on in you commie like fashion.

 

All those fans that boycotted tonights game missed a hell of a performance by the Rockets!

 

What is the heck does this have to do with communism? Do you know the meaning of that word? Don't tell me former Soviet or current N. Korea.

 

Okay.

2002-03: Attendance up 17%. Second best improvement in the league after the relocated New Orleans Hornets.

2003-04: Attendance up 17% again. Third best improvement in the league after Cleveland and Denver.

I'd love every game to sellout as well. I'd love to go from worst announced attendance in the league (2000-01 and 2001-02) to best overnight. But while I won't be satisfied until we sell out every game, I have to be happy with the progress we've made. At least top 3 in % increase two years in a row? I can count the number of times in the history of the NBA that teams have pulled that off with the fingers on one hand.

We've made great progress on attendance. We need to keep it up until we sell the place out every night.

If you want the building to be full -- come on out and help us get sellout #6 on Tuesday vs. a tough Indiana team. We're tracking very close to a sellout on that one, although we might need a little help to push it over the top. If price is an object ... the $10 seats have sold out, but $14 seats are still available.

I'd love to see you out there. Let me know if you're coming. I'll buy you a drink. (That goes for all of you. If you're coming, send me you're seat number. This may be the stupidest offer I've ever made, but if it gets a few more of you out there, I'll gladly schlep drinks all night.)

Tim

 

If there's been any game all season hinting that the Rockets as a team are "getting it", this was the game. Granted, it was at home versus the Clipps but...it's a very athletic and well coached Clipps on a 4 game win streak hovering near .500 with Brand and Maggette playing exceptionally well. The kind of game the old Rockets would overlook and play without focus.

The Rockets are far and away my favorite team, but I regularly watch others...the Kings being near the top of a short list. The Kings play the game the way I like to see it being played...uptempo, ball movement and good (not lockdown but definitely good) defense. Would I enjoy the Rockets more if they ran and passed like the Kings? You can bet on it. Do I think the Rockets are an inferior NBA team (or product) because they can't play like the Kings? Absolutely not.

If playing like the Kings were easy, there'd a whole lot more teams doing it than there are. Saying you're going to do it and then assembling the talent capable of doing it are many seasons removed from each other.

It's just too very, very easy (and short-sighted) to observe the Rockets at game 23 after bad losses to the Spurs and TWolves and write them off for the season. The reality for me from Game 1 was about making the playoffs and improving as a team. Improvement and learning JVG's new system, paraphrasing Yao Ming, is like learning a new word in English...it may be learned on Day 1, forgotten on Day 2 and recalled again on Day 3.

 

"You are a very very bad man Peter." - Samir from Office Space