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It's finally happened. Journalism exposing one specific group has been labelled terrorism

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Mathloom, Nov 6, 2013.

  1. Mathloom

    Mathloom Contributing Member

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    http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2013/11/02-2
     
  2. rhadamanthus

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    I have been saying this for years.

    Terrorism has been twisted to mean, simply, any activity that runs counter to state interests.
     
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  3. AroundTheWorld

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    Sadly, one could even say "any activity that runs counter to the interests of an interest group in power within a state". It's not even really the state's interest.
     
  4. pippendagimp

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    we need ter smoke them jernalists outta their caves!
     
  5. Mathloom

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    Perspective is critical here. It depends on which state's interests we're talking about. So Suharto was considered a hero by some, and a terrorist by others. Gaddhafi. Saddam. OBL. Etc. At different points of their lives, they were on different sides of the fence - considered a hero and a terrorist by the same state(s). Anti-Russian groups were treated like heroes in the past, but when those same groups became anti-"Western" they became terrorists although their behavior did not change in any significant way. Sunni terrorist groups in Iran are being treated like heroes right now when they were on the terrorist list just a half decade ago.

    By the same token, these writers are being treated like terrorists in one instance, but not others. This nuance is critical - it shows that the UK government (in this example) will come down on you hard if you reveal their indiscretions to the public, but will in fact champion you if you keep their dirty laundry hidden. It shows that it's not a matter of principle at all for the UK government, but rather a case of treating humans like dogs.

    So to qualify what you're saying here, it's probably "any activity that runs counter to a state's own interests directly or indirectly, during a specific period of time."
     
  6. rhadamanthus

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    It's not that complicated. The state's "interests" are fickle, simple as that.
     
  7. rocketsjudoka

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    Yeah I find the title of this thread confusing. The group in question is the state so it would be much clearer just to say that "the UK is considering journalism on state secrets as terrorism"
     

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