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It's All Different Now

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by MadMax, Mar 23, 2007.

  1. percicles

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    Fortunately I prefer college football over pro football. Would have been nice to buy into the Texans with VY. Oh well....

    At least two of the four pillars in the VY debacle are gone. Can't do anything about Mcnair but Asserly and Carr are out so maybe when Jarhead gets canned I'll begin the healing process. Perhaps by then we'll draft Russell Shepard of Cy-Ridge with the #1 pick. Untill then I'll just watch for laughs and giggles.
     
  2. BMoney

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    Easy there. I wouldn't pretend to forecast Vince Young's career. He's has so many of the intangibles *and* the physical abilities needed to be a great quarterback that literally nothing would surprise about how far he took his game. He still makes more plays with his running ability than his passes. Sorry. I am not denigrating him as a passer and I think he already is a great leader out there, but people wouldn't be praising the baby Jesus in his name if he scrambled out of the pocket just to make passes. If Young isn't a running qb in the mold of Vick it is because nobody is like him. Vick is the best running quarterback in NFL history, but he is still a below average quarterback because he doesn't lead and he doesn't pass accurately enough. The biggest plays VY made were using his legs. Young can do better than that, but before he gets inducted to Canton next to Elway we will need to see him adjust to NFL defenses over the course of a few seasons.
     
  3. Smokey

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    Me too. I will root for VY vs. Texans forever. Cutting Carr and trading for Scrub is supposed to make VY fans feel better? Yeah right. May this franchise burn in hell. I won't rest until Maria Williams is cut.
     
  4. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

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    I'm pretty sure the Texans organization isn't concerned with fickle, gutless YYOFs.
     
  5. Aceshigh7

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    It doesn't bother you that the Texans wasted a year when it was obvious to so many people that Carr was not the answer, and in doing so, missed out on the chance to get the hometown hero QB that can actually play?

    Where's the smugness from the front office that they were showing after the draft now? They finally realized their mistake, one year later. Now they're stuck with a QB who, while better than Carr, doesn't have nearly the talent level of the guy they should have had. What a joke of a franchise. How anyone can be a Texans fan is beyond me.
     
  6. Party Pizza

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    It is funny to see grown men act like this. Please tell me that you are over the age of 12. :D
     
  7. msn

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    They *did* botch. They *did* screw it up. I thought they did not, argued feverishly that way 12 months ago, and I was wrong.

    How can I be a fan of the Texans? The same way I remained a fan of the Rockets after Eddie Griffin (admittedly a smaller screwup) and of the Astros after Nolan Ryan's needless dismissal. There are many more examples.

    Franchises make mistakes. They're still from Houston, so I still root for them. Not that I expect anyone else to, but that's me.
     
  8. Smokey

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    I love VY - greatest player to wear the burnt orange since Earl.

    My loyalty to him is greater than my loyalty to an inept expansion franchise. I'm not the only one. I'm glad I can amuse you.

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  9. Smokey

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    Difference is the Texans could not afford to make this mistake. They passed on two guys who appear will have great careers, one of which grew up minutes from Reliant Stadium.

    For every Eddie Griffin, there are the two championships to remember. For every, Nolan Ryan situation, there are division titles to keep us happy.

    If you can root for the Texans cause they're from Houston, good for you. I can't.
     
  10. Achilleus

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    What do you mean? You think the Falcons and Dolphins would pass on him, or are you saying that they would have to trade up to get him?
     
  11. Party Pizza

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    So are are over the age of twelve? I honestly didn't know that grown men really acted this way. Sorry.
     
  12. KingCheetah

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    Grabbing Schaub is definitely exciting -- I really didn't think that anyone was going to get him this season. I'm warming up to Ahman Green move, but I don't think he is capable of being a full time back anymore. Most teams have a one/ two punch so not having an every down back isn't the end the world.

    Who are the Texans going to grab in the first round ~ that's the big question right now.
     
  13. rhino17

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    Obviosly not, if they listened to us, maybe the texans would be winning now (like the Titans).
     
  14. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    I think if Vince had not gone to the old Oilers franchise I would root for the Texan's against him.

    I bled Columbia Blue for YEARS !!!!!

    But, I still like Jeff Fisher, think he is an amazing coach, and followed the Titans after they left Houston to a waning degree....Eddie George, Steve McNair, Bruce Matthews, Frank Wycheck, Derick Mason, etc.etc..etc.....

    I had FINALLY gotten over the bug, and was not really interested in the Titans anymore as the last of the Houston Oiler players had left the franchise when...WALLAH, they drafted Vince Young.

    Someone, I thought was the best player to EVER play the college football game, and someone I think is going to be a Hall of Fame player in the NFL...not just a good player...but a GREAT GREAT player.

    And, I argued FERVENTLY with MANY on this board that Vince was a once in a lifetime player, and even though the Texan's had Carr they would be fools to pass up a person who touches the ball EVERY SINGLE offensive play and can score in so many ways.

    I got BLASTED by so many people, it just made me dig my heels in even deeper.....

    Now, less than one year later, the Texans....an expansion team from my hometown, get rid of a QB that I have been saying stunk forever.....I could see it, many others could see it, why couldn't the franchise see it?

    So, they missed out on possibly the best player EVER to play college football at the most important position, and who is an INCREDIBLE leader to boot, to keep a QB who couldn't lead Bonzi to a Krispy Kreme doughnut shop.

    I applaud them for cutting the cancer, but the damage has been done for me....lines have been drawn....I will root for the Texans.....but, when they play the Titans....Jeff Fisher and Vince Young are it for me.

    One thing for sure though.....I still root for WHOMEVER is playing the Cowboys !!!

    DD
     
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  15. rhino17

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    Good post, I agree
     
  16. KingCheetah

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    If we could somehow grab AP at the #10 I would be really excited about the Texans. Latest SI mock has him falling to 12 which I think is crazy.
     
  17. updawg

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    thats crazy.
    It would be huge if he fell to them
    (how bad would it suck if ATL grabs him at #8 :eek: )
     
  18. Rocketman95

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    Even someone with a Wonderlic score of 6 would know that 8-8 does not eqaul a winning season.
     
  19. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    What is the Texan's franchise record for wins in a season?

    8-8 would beat that, right?

    DD
     
  20. Major Malcontent

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    Just curious...is there ANYTHING the Texans could do to placate the Vince-Young-is-the-savior-of-mankind bunch.

    Bob McNair giving free season tickets to anyone who owns an orange shirt.

    Perhaps fellating the great VY on national TV?

    How about we change the name of the team to the Houston Youngs, perhaps moving the team to Austin and changing the colors to burnt orange and white.

    All joking aside though. I am looking forward to yet another football season of incessant whining about why we didn't draft VY.
     

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