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It's All Different Now

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by MadMax, Mar 23, 2007.

  1. Cannonball

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    Well, harldy anybody was talking about VY (NFL wise) before the Rose Bowl. Maybe, because he was an underclassmen. But that never stopped anyone before. After the national championship, then the speculation about the draft began followed by the rising hype after he declared. Lienart was definitely rated higher in the beginning but VY's stock rose and as the draft approached it became a crapshoot.

    But you're right. Most of the time VY wasn't thought of as top 3. The Rose Bowl propelled him into the top 10. Only one QB was going to go Top 3 (with Bush and Mario). At one point everyone believed Leinart was going to be the first QB taken but VY slowly crept up until things were up in the air on draft day.
     
  2. Joshfast

    Joshfast "We're all gonna die" - Billy Sole
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    So we give Carr 5 years and still have people claiming none of it was his fault but we can judge Schaub on 2 games? Insanity.
     
  3. halfbreed

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    I'm just glad David Carr isn't on the team anymore so I might be able to enjoy watching Texans games now.

    I'm just hoping Schaub is worth the money and (likely) giving up on Adrian Peterson.
     
  4. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

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    How does this mean we likely gave up on AP? The Falcons or Dolphins won't take him unless they trade out of the spot.
     
  5. ima_drummer2k

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    I love this "logic". By the same token, if the dallas mavricks get swept in the first round of the playoffs this year, their fans are going to be PISSED! Yeah? What's your point?

    I don't understand this sentence.

    So you think we're going to draft a QB in the early round of this year's draft?? Seriously??? Also, I like how you say "when the outrage hits harder". :rolleyes:

    Are you a David Carr fan? I didn't think there were any of you guys left. Are you seriously mad at the Texans for trading him away? Do you think we should have kept him??

    [MadMax falls in a faint]
     
  6. IROC it

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    a) sorry it was in reply to the logic it followed...

    b) where have you been?

    Oh and I know they will, but he's not been traded yet... Carr that is. ;)

    Goodness, I cannot be skeptical over an 0-2 as a starter back-up being proclaimed starter of the Texans with no "competition" as was once screamed about Carr? What?

    I can say that Carr's stats have been better than Schaub's at this point, and be truthful. In every category, for his career...

    Why can I not be leery, or even cynical about the fallen Falcon?

    I thought Sage was the team's hidden savior?!? :confused:

    0-2 is a loser the same as Carr's record... but Carr has some "also" stats to consider... like worst all-time sack record, etc.

    I believe I have a right to question the sudden jump to "righting the ship" by making an unproven starter the starter...

    Can anyone not see the logic in that?
     
  7. steddinotayto

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    Quite honestly, there have been "unproven QBs" (i.e. ones that are drafted after the 2nd or 3rd round and ones that played backup at the beginning of their careers) that have actually succeeded than QBs that were drafted using a high pick.
     
  8. ima_drummer2k

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    LOL, OK I don't want to get involved then.

    0-2 is not a big enough sample size to decide that Schaub sucks. That's like saying you don't want to draft any rookies this year because they've never played in the NFL before.

    Schaub has some "also" stats to consider too... like only starting 2 games, etc. Schaub wasn't brought here because he's a proven commodity, he was brough here because the Texans think he can be a good QB in the future.

    You certainly do. But when you talk about the future as if you already know exactly what's going to happen, you're going to get called on it.

    Hey, I'm skeptical too. But like MadMax, I'm also excited that the Texans are trying to make changes so we can start winning instead of just accepting the status quo.
     
  9. msn

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    Hahahaha!!! Haven't seen a good "Sura fall in faint" reference in a while!
     
  10. DwangBoy

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    too bad we didn't figure this out until we let vince young slip through our fingers.. perfect example of Houston football tragedy.
     
  11. justtxyank

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    Thank God someone finally said that.
     
  12. macalu

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    i bet you're the only one that thinks that.
     
  13. ima_drummer2k

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    Thanks for that fresh new perspective.
     
  14. IROC it

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    Same could be said for Carr in 2002.
     
  15. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    I am not there, I still root for Young in this situation.

    DD
     
  16. IROC it

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    Funny, as MadMax grows more fond of the Texans... I grow more detached. I may root for VY this next year, too.

    Or even worse, the Cows.
     
  17. ima_drummer2k

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    I can't believe I missed this post the first time.

    :eek:
     
  18. Refman

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    All I can say is "wow." The guy plays roughly half a season and we are drawing comparisons to arguably the best player ever to lace up sneakers? Are you serious?

    Dubbing somebody as the next MJ or the MJ of (insert activity here) is so tired. Anybody else remember when Harold Minor was the next MJ? Anybody remember when Michael Vick was being called the MJ of the NFL? Then it was McNabb...then Culpepper...now VY.

    Call me when he has 6 rings, has clearly been the best in the league for 10 seasons and arguably reinvents the game.
     
  19. Joshfast

    Joshfast "We're all gonna die" - Billy Sole
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    That's pretty low...
     
  20. Kam

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    Cheering for the Cowboys. :cool:

    That is sooo funny.

    I don't know, it still looks the same to me.
     

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