You know, this has got to be the most tired line out there. I'm a big old lonely guy who has no friends and does stuff on a message board. Whether you like it or not: I've been here for a decade. I like going to CF functions. I've had several members meet me. Folks would've called me out on my schtick long ago if I were a liar. If you haven't realized I have a lot of friends, you're an idiot.
Sigh. I really am not trying to be rude here. Honestly. Can you not see research funded by an atheist organization whose results "prove the shroud was a fake" isn't hyperbolic? Really? And FWIW, I think I first heard about the shroud 20 or so years ago. I found it fascinating if true, but even I was a tad skeptical about it. The problem I had was atheists trying to prove it was fake. If you don't believe in anything, that is fine. But quit trying to ridicule the ones that do. I'm done, for now. So many of y'all think I'm this bitter a-hole these days. Those theories have been greatly exaggerated...
I'm sure you have lots of "friends". However, I'm highly skeptical you have dozens of atheists friends (24+). Why are you so defensive... not sure about all those "friends" you have?
Huh? I'm not defensive other than being called a liar? Are you not defensive towards those type of comments? 24+? More like 30+ for the most part. Jeez, my ex was agnostic. You have no idea who I am.
Bro, before it was "uncool" to have your myspace on here, I had mine in my sig. I did it to mainly let anyone here see my pics, who I was out with, etc. As I've said, several people from here have met me. A couple have hung out with our group on a regular basis. You simply have no idea what you're talking about.
Please point out exactly what about my post you disagree with. Even some of you are admitting to somewhat agree with what I said.
What is wrong with trying to prove the truth in something? Especially something as important and influential as religion...
Trying to prove something religious as "fake" is just petty. If you are truly curious whether God exists or not, put funding towards that realization. If you are absolutely sure one does not exist, quit funding crap to try and prove it. I can't even fathom why someone would want to throw money at something like this unless they had an agenda against religious people.
Um, theoretically, if one is absolutely sure that God does not exist and that religion is bad, wouldn't it be a good thing then for that person to fund research that proves the aforementioned ideas? What's wrong with funding that crap, as you put it.
Um, because it can't be disproven. Period. If you want to debunk crap, that's fine by me. I couldn't care less. Benny Hinn is a fraud? Shocking. Noah's Ark made of wood is no longer around? Fascinating. The Red Sea wasn't really split? Tell me more. It seems more like you're trying to justify your own inadequacies like the fringe religious folk do. If you can't see that, you need to rethink your goals for life. They've failed for you, thus far.
fatty, I'll let you in on a little secret...some of us post things just to watch you dance like a puppet on a string. Nothing personal. I find the whole shroud phenomenon as fascinating now as I did when I was 12 and attending St. Phillip Neri Catholic grade school in southeast Houston. Wouldn't it be awesome if it was HIS shroud? Yes, it would, whether you're an atheist or the pope. I'm with you there. However, even with your lack of faith (no pun intended) in scientific investigation, and with what you know about the history of the shroud (scientific & religious), and medieval history in relation to holy relics (fakes & quackery), what do you think is the most plausible explanation? It's a remarkable piece of fabric with an incredible image however you slice it. Is my whole paradigm of the world of faith threatened if it's a fake? Nah
Hey, don't you go besmirching the paisans. It was as recently as 1744 that Giovanni Francesco Crivelli published the Elements of physics.
Read my post above. I feel the same way. Skeptical but fascinated if it is true. And I suppose you're right that the lib bunch get my goat on this, but honestly, it is so liberal in this forum these days that anyone who defends an honest argument gets ridiculed. There's a reason most conservatives left. It's a pile on party by a bunch of morons that love to spew this. I respect BJ, so this live debate should be entertaining and will shed a lot of light for folks that grew up on this forum.
OK... I'll put it to you this way: I'm not spending one penny of my own trying to debunk anything. I think people that do need to focus on more important things in life. (Unless you work for Mythbusters.) Do you disagree?
I disagree. What is important to others is determined by those others. Not anyone else's perception of what is more important in life. Right now, for me, the most important thing in life is more Oreo's and milk. Do you disagree?
