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It would help if our guys took on contact.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DaDakota, Apr 24, 2008.

  1. ClutchCityReturns

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    Are any of these worse than going up weak and missing the shot anyway?
     
  2. GMNot

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    Precisely.

    If the Rockets play right, they can turn the aggressive, physical play of the Jazz into a weakness. It shouldn't be too hard to pick a path to the basket with a player enough out of position so that you can run into him on your way to the basket and get the foul. (Don't know if you could get enough people in foul trouble to affect the game, but it wouldn't hurt trying.)

    Scola plays physical but strangely enough not going to the basket. I really don't remember him trying to dunk the ball going to the basket this season -- and he usually gets close enough to try. It took Yao too long to start warming up to dunking. Scola needs a Moses Malone to work out with to complete his education of what NBA basketball is like.
     
  3. northeastfan

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    Pop had to teach (yell at) Ginobili to dunk the ball too instead of weak layups. It's a man's game in the paint; unfortunately, Scrubola is playing like a boy and I'm not sure he's getting any encouragement to change.
     
  4. magnetik

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    the ghosts of Donaghy sure does seem like it's still around.
     
  5. cavevato

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    There is no doubt in my mind that you started this thread after watching Scola, and only Scola, jumping away from the goal just to avoid contact....over and over and over.This is what my peeve is.Whenever Tmac is "settling for jumpers" or whatever else hes not doing right. He gets singled out even tho hes not the only one . Now Scola is doing something, but now you want to put it like "we" need to take on the contact.Ok..... I dont know what my point was... just find it funny how you chose to put it this time


    I dont know why Scola is avoiding contact.You know even Manu does the same thing(the body contortions).Maybe its in his blood or maybe he was taught that way or maybe he has to do it to get his shot since Okur is taller , whatever the reason I agree he needs to play w/ a little less finesse and a little more brute. A little more like Yao :) .
     
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    Would have helped more if they had taken on a contract... like his:

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  7. MayoRocket

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    The person that has surprised me the most with his timidness has been Landry of all people. He hasn't taken it strong at all down low.
     
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    I see what ur saying DD, but like I said in a earlier thread, when u lack explosion and u have never been a natural scorer in the nba, u struggle at this concept. A guy like scola and hayes will always struggle near the hoop cuz neither is long or explosive. If ur long, but not explosive, u can get away with it. If ur neither, then u struggle. Add the fact none of those guys are shooting ft good, what u have is guys trying to get the shot up quick before being fouled.
     
  9. jzmagic

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    Exactly, it's painful seeing our players trying to avoid contact while driving into the lane and trying to finish. Let them get called for their dirty ass crap because they will foul you every time.
     
  10. magnetik

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    lol. this thread makes me think of that pic with Ashton Kutcher in the lane with Rashad McCants driving to the hole. I don't think we should take on more contact.. I think we need to practice our free throws and flopping is what we need to do.
     
  11. pippendagimp

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    DD,

    It's not that they're avoiding contact.....it's that they're avoiding having to go to the line and shoot freethrows!
     
  12. DaDakota

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    You don't need to be explosive to get contact, just be strong......head fake, pump fake then lean in....

    Yao did it for a long time too, and finally this year he started leaning towards the basket forcing the defender to give way...or foul.

    That is what I want everyone to do...

    DD
     
  13. LCII

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    Actually, KG is pretty soft too...he likes to do fadeaways from the low block... but he doesn't get injured for 20 games a season.
     
  14. jopatmc

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    DD,

    You are exactly right.

    McGrady twists and turns and dipsy doodles to avoid contact.
    Rafer avoids contact on his drives.
    Bobby does the heeby geebies in there to avoid contact.
    Hayes takes it straight up, doesn't have an upfake, can't double pump in the air to draw contact.
    Scola twists and turns but he does seek to feel the defender and spin off him. I'm okay with his moves.
    Shane does not create any contact.
    Head avoids contact at the rim instead of seeking it out. He should be getting a ton of foul calls but he twists and instead of looking for the contact, he fades off and winds up throwing the ball away for the turnover.
    Yao has to fight fading off his shot.


    I'm so glad you brought this up. This is the single reason why I have salivated at the thought of trading for Corey Maggette. If we just had one guy that drew contact and racked up foul count against, I think it would make our offense soooooooo much better. Can you imagine teams trying to defend us when we are in the bonus with 6 minutes left in the quarter. Throw it into Yao. What are they gonna do? One guy with that kind of aggressiveness is contagious. Yao will start taking it hard and getting a pile of FTs. That would make our offensive efficiency go up, up, up. That's one reason why I'm a Kyle Lowry fan. He takes it to the hoop relentlessly and looks for the contact.

    Interesting, Doug Collins just said it. "When you play against Utah, you cannot seek to avoid contact at the rim." Gotta seek out the fouls.
     
  15. brooksstephens

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    It would also help if we didn't suck balls
     
  16. Arvid

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    You mean the Mandry who just lost two teeth or had his nose hit broken?!

     
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    should kept Kirk Snyder.... :p

    Seriously, I dont miss him but wouldnt have minded seeing him out there this series
     
  18. northeastfan

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    Like I said, we won't get any calls.
     
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    Boy, what an ideal game to demonstrate how important it is to get the foul advantage. Nip and tuck game. We come out in the 4th and get them to their 5th foul with over 10 minutes left in the game, being aggressive and forcing the action to the rim. And we pulled out a huge game.
     

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