It looks like the US is finally restoring diplomatic relations with Cuba...

When can we order cigars?

 

Why doesn't Obama trying convincing the American people who in turn pressure Congress? That's how democracy works. Obama has never 'had to implement a workaround', he chooses to rather than taking the democratic approach. He gots golfing to do.

 

He took the democratic approach

Here was the result:

Spoiler

 

I like how this is almost universally seen as a good thing and a step toward the right direction with regard to Cuba (anyone on CF against this move?), yet some folks here will STILL find a way to bash Obama.

 

And the American people voted over overwhelmingly for Republicans. Democracy is hard. Why convince the American people to support a piece of legislation (Obama always fails at this) when Obama can just decree it? None the less he should since its the moral thing to do (at least most view democracy as moral).

Wow . Total ****ing bull****. Obama is taking heat from both sides for this (why do you think he waited until after the election) . Commodore and Major have both said this.

 

we can't allow Russia to have a military base 90 miles from our shore after they start a war due to social unrest (low oil prices + sanctions are laying the groundwork for that)...

 

Setting and implementing foreign policy is specifically one of the primary functions of the Presidency. Normalizing relations is not a 'work around'. None of the things he did are things Congress would or should vote on.

 

Go look at the post I responded to.

 

Wow. Total ****ing bull**** overreaction. Calm down.

Since when has Commodore ever not disliked anything Obama has done? Again, it's just an example of people wanting to bash Obama because that's all they've been doing. Also, I do believe Major was just quoting Commodore and addressing his comment - not actually taking his stance.

I swear, one of the biggest things that stifles debate here in the D&D is that people are either just so committed to their party-line thinking, or they're just so stubborn in what they believe (this goes both ways), that they refuse to be objective for a bit. Had Bush implemented this policy, I would have been all for it. Diplomatic relations is a good thing.

 

What does that have to do with anything? U claimed this was universally seen as a 'good thing' which is total bull****. Its already been shown to you by Major and Commodore that its not universally seen as a good thing.

either that or you being dishonest.

 

I think Obama is done on this front. I think it'd be nice for the US if we'd lift the embargo, but Obama doesn't really need for it to happen. He did a prisoner swap and opened an embassy without needing to lift the embargo. If we go another decade with the embargo, it won't undo what Obama's done.

As for work-arounds on the travel ban, Americans already have one -- fly to Cuba via Mexico. We don't need to reinvent the wheel.

 

What is your position on relations with Cuba? Please don't answer with an answer about process, just answer on whether or not you think the US should have normalized relations with Cuba.

 

Seriously, that's the lede, there's no reason to care about anything else in this story.

 

Think of the rum!

 

I think this and the Bergdahl deal make Americans way more vulnerable. Anyone who wants anything from America should go arrest an American for any reason. Obama will give you whatever u want.

As to lifting the embargo; nobody likes embargoing a country. I would support it if Cuba made changes.

 

BuzzFeed: White House Credits Pope Francis for Facilitating Cuba Deal

 

What people all or fail to see is the big picture. Russia just invited Kim Jun Ung or whatever that North Korean fatties name is to visit.

Mending fences with a country whose in our back yard helps eliminate the threat of them being used by the Russians for a second Cuban missile crisis.

 

CUBAN CIGARS!!!!!!!!! woot woot...