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It looks like Plan B worked after all

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by bobrek, Oct 19, 2005.

  1. Sishir Chang

    Sishir Chang Member

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    Hey Bobrek;

    Any interests of a Stros Fans North viewing party for game 1? Unfortunately like the Rox I'm not sure I could scrape up many Stros fans but I think I could find a few. You know any Stros fans or people who could be converted to the Stros?
     
  2. Sishir Chang

    Sishir Chang Member

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    Exactly..

    Chemistry is critical to baseball that its almost impossible to merely assemble a team of great sluggers and guarentee they win. If you look at the past few World Series the best hitting teams haven't always been the teams that win.
     
  3. kaleidosky

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    Exactly. I can't believe someone would use the "weakened Cards" argument and talk about injuries when we didn't have Pettite and started Munro last year. Plus, numerous people talked about this year's Cards team being better than last year's. Their rotation was infinitely better with a healthy Cy Young candidate (Carp) and Mulder. Their lineup was really only missing Rolen... did you see Renteria this year? I think Eck did a better job than him this year...and just as good a job (when factoring in all facets of the game) as the Edgar from last year.
     
  4. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Game 1 is bowling night :( .
     
  5. Sishir Chang

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    Bowling is more important than watching the Stros in their first World Series? :confused:
     
  6. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Unfortunately, due to my extended Korea stay, I have already missed too much. It's at the Lakeville Bowl which only has 8 lanes and I'll make sure they put one of the TVs on the World Series. I should be home in time for the 3rd or 4th inning. I imagine I'll spend more time watching than bowling.
     
  7. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    the ONLY reason the Astros have been so successful is because they have had arguably the greatest pitching staff ever. Pettitte and Roger having career years, Roger at the age of 42, well if that was plan B it worked.
     
  8. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    Well, not surprisingly there is a quite a bit of immature thought posing as responses to my post. Again, I argue that the team has achieved *in spite of* Purpura's work. The emotional, non-critical thinking fan says "WHOO HOOO we are in the World Series, everyone is doing their job!!!" The astute, critical thinking fan says, "Overall we have had a superior performing team, however we have weaknesses and not every aspect of our team is championship caliber." The Astros' spot in the WS is more a testament to the Herculean efforts of players like Oswalt, Clemens, Pettitte, Ausmus, Lidge, Qualls, Wheeler and Berkman. They have overcome the odds and won the National Leage pennant without the benefit of a strong lineup behind them -- no analyst that has covered the team's game this year would disagree.

    A relevant analogy is a public company that has seen its stock price appreciate in value. Does one look at those results and declare that every employee has done their job well? Only an immature thinker would make that declaration.
     
  9. MadMax

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    that and scoring more runs than anyone in the playoffs.

    oh, yeah..and having the best bullpen in the majors, as well.
     
  10. MadMax

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    TJ, this team isn't a fluke. They're not winning despite themselves. They have the best record in baseball over the last 120+ games. Period. The end. They're now the NL Champs. You told us that wouldn't happen. You told us it couldn't happen. It did.
     
  11. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    oh, yeah, the bullpen is part of the pitching staff, oh yeah. I'm referring to the whole season.
     
  12. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    But, did you ever pay off our bet?
     
  13. MadMax

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    i hear ya. they're built on pitching. their defense has been steady. no one will confuse them with the 27 Yanks.

    having said that...they're not nearly as bad offensively as they're made out to be.
     
  14. Phi83

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    The old baseball theory is proven correct... Good pitching beats good hitting!!! And we have the best pitchers in the League, barnone, no comparison, game over. As far as St Louis being a weaker team, look at the facts: Healthy Chris Carpenter, Mark Mulder, Eckstein, Molina, and Nunez, compare the stats, this reveals the facts. The Astros won because of team work, guts, and they have the hearts of a Champion! Lets GO ASTROS! World Series BABY!
     
  15. msn

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    This is the only part of your post that is true. As for the rest of it: sometimes, jubilance and casting discretionary critical thinking aside just for the moment, is *appropriate*, not "immature". I'm sorry you see it that way, and thanks for the label. Now, as befitting someone who has been labelled "immature" and "non-discretionary thinking", let me say shut the hell up. People are celebrating; go b**** and moan elsewhere.
     
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    Damn straight. They're like the Cardinals of the '80s -- great, great pitching, precious little hitting, and good team speed. I like the Cardinals of the '80s, and I love this team.
     
  17. pgabriel

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    no they're not, but let's not act like they made it to the World Series because of Taveres, Burke, and Lane either.

    I'm not knocking them or saying it was a fluke.
     
  18. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

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    Thank you! He's just upset because the Astros made the World Series. Between that and UT winning the national championship in baseball last June, it hasn't been a very good baseball season for t_J. We should all be understanding and let him have his period of mourning.
     
  19. Phi83

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    Great Pitching and Small Ball will always win... Look at the Marlins and Diamondbacks... TJ, please try to enjoy the vctory... Its a special time to celebrate!!!
     
  20. pariah

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    Baseball - more art than science. Major was right and I was wrong.

    I was wrong in saying that the Stros wouldn't make it a month ago. I was wrong saying that Burke has a limp bat (I said bat) and that our low scoring line-up and especially our achilles heal, LF platoon, would keep us from the WS.

    I could not carry Purpura's really fat GM jock. He was right and I was wrong.
     

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