It looks like Chase is more than enough of a replacement to Von

If I had to choose I would take Tmac over AI...every day of the week....but I do think they both need the ball for THEIR game and are both volume shooters.

We don't need nor have a volume of shots to give away anymore.

DD

 

who said von is hard to replace? who?

 

you didn't answer my other question. do you think that if we had marcus camby, we would be a legitimate title contender?

 

Chase is better than Von in everything except explosiveness and how high he elevates when taking his jumpshot.

In everything else Chase is better. Von was a short term guy. Chase is someone you want in your team long term.

 

I think it is possible yes.....because we have a complete team then....it would depend on the current development of Brooks, Ariza and Budinger...but yeah, I do.

DD

 

You mean a shotblocker is all we need? They had him in Denver and did not win. I guess Chase and Trevor are not experienced enough to take the spot of efficient volume shooters. They are inconsistent and haven't proven to be the main guys in the playoffs.

 

I might add a Camby won't be able to decrease your number of Turnovers.

 

Von had better hair.

 

Who is this mythical efficient volume shooters......and as an FYI...that makes no sense....volume shooters means you need volumes of shots to get your points...what you said is an oxymoron.

DD

 

We need a star. A healthy, consistent star, to get anywhere in the playoffs. We don't need another role player, and whether that star is McGrady is up for debate.

Camby will not do anything for the Rockets besides letting his man beat him off the dribble then attempting to block them from behind and grabbing a few rebounds.

Rick Adelman's Kings back then were filled with role players, but they at least had a star player in Webber to lead them. Even a 3/4 healthy McGrady will do wonders for this team in the playoffs with bread and butter plays during our shooting slump. We need simple pick and roll plays to score easy points should the opponent's defense ever adjust, and yes a playoff form McGrady will help a lot.

 

Ariza took 18 shots and Cbud took 15 shots most of the time. That is high volume enough for me.
Volume shooters are guys who looks for shots. Not volume scorers!

 

Never mind. What I was trying to say of course are they are supposed to be efficient scorers and shooters respectively.

 

You're embarrassing yourself (once again) when the subject gets to T-Mac. What about the playmaking part? You know, that thing that very few amount of players in the NBA can do as well as T-Mac. Who's the best playmaker on this team... Brooks? The shorty? I'd rather have a 6'7" point forward who's a better passer and decision maker.

If you think he'd be taking 25 shots a game this season, you're completely clueless. You've lost all credibility in any discussion regarding McGrady.

 

It's the beginning of the season, that percentage will go down.

Don't even try to argue the athleticism, it is not even close.

 

Hopefully Chase will be able to keep this up throughout the whole season, but for now, I'd personally still take Von over Chase until I see some consistency in him.

 

I don't mean to be personal,but you're completely delusional if you think replacing Tracy with Camby will make us a contender. The running won't be enough,playoffs will be half-court. Teams will devise strategies to slow us down. Chase cannot create eg Tracy,and neither is our passing good enough even with the improvements that Aaron and Lowry are showing. Once Brooks was trapped by the Lakers,Lowry couldn't carry the load. Our interior defense mostly consists of Chuck.

Landry is improving and Scola is steady but we still lack interior scoring strength. Andersen is far away from contributing. If Camby is forced into a high court game,his offensive efficiency will go down and even if it doesn't all he gives us is shotblocking and rebounding,and nothing else on defense.

My definition of a contender doesn't mean a team that may get into the 2nd round at best. A true contender needs to have a strong chance of winning the Western Conference.
That doesn't mean Tracy is T-Mac either,most of us realize that.

 

/Thumbs up

 

If chase can't lead in his collage days, why would it happen here?

Check this numbers
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Chase-Budinger-502/stats/

He is averaging the same numbers now and during his 3 years of collage. He have 4 coaches in 4 years and he still get the same average. He goes from lead player to rookie and he still get the same average.

Is this his peak? Or will things get better for him if he stays in the same system for more than a season?

So IMO, Chase will always be Mr Consistent, a very good 2nd tier player who will never reach All-star level.

 

Seriously? You don't think someone who comes out dominating his rookie year could go further? Please give us more than his college scores were consistent because that's of no indication of how well he'd do in a different system and in a different setting with professionals after several more years of development.

Arizona actually had some hard years while he was there and he still performed strong. Also, watch him play, being good isn't about being a visible leader that can go Michael Jordon on people. What Chase does is artwork, it truly is. He's got a huge future in this league and has the brains and athletic ability to flourish with Houston. Larry Bird comparisons are what I'm thinking if you take into account his playing time. Maybe it's because he's white and can hit a three that I say that, but damn, the kid has it. Chay Bud for the win.

 

Camby ain't even better than Hayes. His defense is so overrated it's disgusting. Thinking he makes anyone a contender is a joke. They both had their turns defending Gasol in the playoffs. Remember how Hayes did a respectable job? Remember how Gasol made Camby his b****? I guess reputation buys you a lot of fans.