It looks like Chase is more than enough of a replacement to Von

Supposedly Von Wafer might get cut from the greek team because of his poor play.

Can someone dig and find out if this is true?

 

Von is a better shooter and way more athletic. But Chase passes better and plays defense.

 

in my opinion the biggest difference b/t chase and von is that chase is a much smarter player.

chase doesnt force shots and has good bball IQ unlike wafer.

 

I'll agree with you on the Athleticism but HELL NO on the better shoot comment.

C-Bud's stroke is almost flawless. (pause)

 

No way. Is Wafer shooting .524% and .421% from Downtown? Is he "way more athletic?" In my opinion, he's not.

 

Wafer's ft% >>>>> Budinger's ft%

Do you guys know Bundinger's ft%? For a good shooter, that is so beyond...

Of course, I think it is just a temporary thing, but feel a little funny.

 

anything beyond 1.9-2 mil per kinda range for wafer would be wrong. i said this back then, and i still say it today.

i know wafer is making a lot more now. good for him, too.

 

Chase has dreamier eyes than Von.

Until he breaks my heart with some flaw I'll find later into the season.

 

that's terrible logic. he's injured. it's not like he is healthy and rick adelman is choosing to not play him.

 

DUH....please read again for context.

DD

 

lol, how does this team not need a tmac? if we had a tmac, we would have beaten the lakers 3 days ago. no one could create anything. i guarantee if we had tmac, we would have gotten at least a shot attempt to win that game...

 

if you want to use stats as evidence, go look at tmac's playoff stats. enough said.

i can't believe you honestly think this team doesn't need tmac.

 

Budinger has the tools to be a really good/great player in the NBA. My hat is off to Adelman for recognizing this and, even if he is a rookie, giving him all the opportunities to play and contribute. If JVG was coach forget about it.

 

Can't believe my eyes you are mentioning him everywhere. As much as I like Chase, he does not have the handles of a McGrady. Of course you value Chase because he passed in transition as opposed to McGrady who walked the ball up more. WHY? because we were a freaking half court team previously? Any playmaker would walk the ball up in that JVG manner. You call that ballhogging when JVG handed the reins to Tracy. WOW.

 

Where to start?

I value chase because he moves off the ball, and plays the team game the way I like to see it played.

And I hated JVG's style because I knew it would ultimatly lead to failure, that Tracy walking it up made it easy for the defense to get set.

Sure, Tmac and Yao were talented enough to win some amount of games that way, but ultimatly without easy baskets they were making the games harder than they had to be....and TMac specifically is not a good enough or rather efficient enough player to play that way and win consistently in the playoffs.

If the team goes back to that it will be worse, they are winning now because the other teams do not know who to key on, and if we had an athletic big in there the team might be a championship contender pretty quickly.

In fact if you take out Tmac and put in Camby, I think the Rockets might contend this year as is....

DD

 

LOL, so marcus camby is the answer?!

 

To what question?

He makes the team better than a guy sitting on the bench, or coming in and dominating the ball, not playing defense and jacking up 20+ shots and shooting 40% does.

DD

 

this argument has nothing to do with tmac vs. marcus camby. stop using "tmac sitting on the bench" as an argument. he's hurt. like i said, if he was not hurt, he wouldn't be sitting on the bench.

anyway, i'm perplexed to find that you think marcus camby is the missing piece that is keeping us from being a championship contender.

 

and even if you want to use that argument, allen iverson would be better than tmac, because at least he'll be on the floor, right?! so are you saying you would want allen iverson in place of tmac?

 

DD, it seems like you're obsessed with the notion that Tracy will never be able to change. The reason he used to walk the ball and play in the half court is because of Yao and because JVG wanted him to. Don't you remember what he was like back in Orlando? Go look back at his highlights, a lot of his points were finishing fast breaks and transition 3's. The style we're playing now is how Tracy got his name. He said he as much and that he was looking forward to playing this style on media day. Of course his shooting % whilst playing in a half court set is going to be worse, because the defense is going to be better prepared for him.

I'm not saying Tracy is perfect and the answer to all our problems, but call me ignorant when I say I believe the guy can change. Comparing Chase to Tracy is stupid, as much as I love Chase. One is a rookie with no expectations, the other is a guy who was the focal point of opposition defenses carrying a hack team. Also, you know as well as I do how you can't extrapolate points based on minutes played. Just because he scores 15ppg in 15min doesn't mean he's going to score 40ppg in 40min.