I agree that there are zero tolerance abuses all over. I don't blame the teacher as much because she probably had a cover your own ass mentality. If it turned out to be something bad, and she hadn't reported it, maybe she'd get in trouble. I don't know for sure what happened. Maybe he did deserve to be suspended. I just haven't seen any evidence showing that. I'm also confused why Cuban's commentary is accepted as evidence as to what happened. I've seen his comments and seen them referenced. I'm just not sure why his opinion of anything regarding this has any more validity than anybody else's. I think being suspended from school are pretty crappy consequences if he really didn't do anything wrong other than show it to more teachers than just the one.
The police asked him and he told them it was a clock. They could have simply let him go after that. Instead they decide to arrest him and suspend him. If they also held him without letting him talk his parents well I am sure they violated some law.
If she thought it looked like a bomb then why didn't she follow basic protocols for a bomb. Either she didn't think it looked like a bomb or she's an idiot for carrying a bomb around the school.
Cuban has actually spoken to school officials, and he has nothing to gain by being on the side of skepticism. It depends on whether he was deliberately doing it to bother people. If he was being coy, as Cuban said he was told, than I agree with the school's decision. If he brought it out and said look at this clock I made, I think there should be no punishment. The police could have let him go, but they make no decisions on suspension (merely arrest and charges). The suspension is brought on by zero-tolerance policy that requires he be suspended. Those policies are ridiculous. You can't eliminate middle ground in a gray area, especially involving the decisions of children. I've been there before. Police pull that kind of crap all the time. There is no question that there is a problem with police and their application of the law. If he was interrogated without his parents, that is wrong, and should be against the law if for some reason it is not.
I suspect rockbox is not in direct contact with the teacher. That said, context doesn't require it. If anyone thought was a bomb, the school would have been evacuated. The fact that it wasn't lets you infer that this wasn't the case.
I find this an incredibly stupid comment even for you. NOW folks like yourself who haven't a clue what electronic circuit boards actually look like have seized on the premise that Ahmed didn't make anything himself which is bigotspeak for: "No 14 year old brown-skinned Muslim child has the mental capacity to understand much less built something like this unless its to promote jihad because everyone knows that all Muslims are terrorists". Views like this and recent rash of articles from aggrieved white people (and their minority proxies) claiming this to be a fraud or publicity stunt definitely prove your point about the stupidity of the intolerant members of American society. OK let's look at this statement: The same thing happened to him that would happen to literally any other kid that did the same thing and refused to answer questions about it Not even remotely true. Dimwit Irving ISD and PD asked him what the device was. He explained that it was a clock. They asked him what it was for and he told them to tell time. This proved confusing to one Irving PD officer who asked him why would he build a clock when there were clocks all over the school. He stopped talking when the principal tried to force him to sign a statement that said he was trying to create a bomb scare. He was then perp-walked out of the school. but because he's a foreign (corrected it for you) Muslim there is the assumption of racism which is what makes this a story. Now this part is priceless!. Notice how it just rolls out there without one shred of truthfulness. I hate to be the bearer of bad news but Ahmed is an American citizen by birth. His father legally emigrated from the Sudan 30 years ago and still holds Sudanese citizenship. No matter how you and the others who hate/fear Muslims, minorities and anyone who doesn't look or think like you want them to try to spin this episode to fit your own narrow viewpoint, you cannot dispute the facts of this incident. But by all means, keep on doing what you do so very well.
I'm wondering if there is a point to what anyone of you is saying. It wasn't a real bomb so it could not have been a threat?
It was a rhetorical question. I personally believe she is a little bit of both. Lying that she actually thought it was a bomb, and stupid for making a big deal of it. The outrage isn't about the kid and his invention skills. It doesn't matter if clock was stupid or if he even did it on purpose. This was all set in motion because the teacher overreacted, then the principal overreacted, and then the police overreacted. Three adults who were in position of power sequentially failed to use common sense over a homemade or pulled apart alarm clock. Any of them could have stopped this from being national news.
So I guess Cuban spoke to school officials but not the boy or his family. I think he only has gotten one side of the story, and is making his statements based on only that side. Ultimately I don't know enough to make a decision either way. It's just that from what I've seen, I haven't seen enough evidence to suspend the kid from what has been presented so far.
How did the teacher overreact? What, in your humble opinion, would have been an appropriate reaction?
"Cool idea, but maybe let us know beforehand next time before you bring something like this to school so that there aren't any questions."
We have to keep in mind she was the sixth teacher who saw "The bomb". Obviously her peers are a bit smarter than she is. I'm not sure how she confused it for a bomb when there is not a type of explosive in it. It's clearly just a clock. They said they knew it wasn't a bomb but they thought he brung the clock there to scare people. That makes no sense. Also there have been no terrorists attacks by 13 years old Muslims in America as far as I know and the bomb squad was never there. So they knew it wasn't a bomb but they arrested him anyway.
That's how a kid would want the situation handled but let's use our grown up voice today, mkay? BTW, that is exactly how his teacher reacted plus he instructed or advised him to not show anyone else.
"I appreciate your ingenuity, but you shouldn't bring stuff like this to school. I will keep it in the office where you can pick it after school."
Out of curiosity, what is your opinion on the "draw Muhammad" event? A bunch of armed guys having an event to intentionally piss off a whole bunch of people.
No.....I'm saying that he didn't make anything himself because all he did was take a commercially manufactured clock out of its outer case and stick it in a box. Don't be a r****d. If he had actually built something himself, it might be a little bit different, but that's not the case here.
I'm not too busy with lunch so I'll go ahead and take a shot. As far as we know the clock did not "beep" in any of the other classes. In all other classes he supposedly (according to Cuban) approached the teachers to show them the clock. Now, we can't be sure why in that one class it beeped: alarm, low-battery, misfired button, etc. However his clock, which doesn't look like a clock, caught the attention of his teacher. How she interpreted it as a threat we don't know. We do know she told him it looks like a bomb, so that might be the extent of her efforts to interpret the device. That's about it. At some point in time later on the police believed that he was not forth coming. Forth coming with what we have no idea. My guess is that he could not explain in a clear manner why he built the clock (for which class and teacher), how he built the clock and why it beeped during class. Also, if they had knowledge of what his engineering teacher had said to him, they may have wanted to know why he didn't do as instructed or advised. Just my take on the situation. I guess I can come to the conclusion that there is not enough evidence to suspend him but there isn't enough evidence for my to disagree with the suspension either. However, I don't find enough evidence for the arrest.
It was never seen as an actual threat. Which was why the police handling it the way they did was completely ridiculous. It's so *****ing hard for some of you to see that.
