Like I said - his story does not add up. Even in his direct quote (from the BBC) from his conversation with his teacher he doesn't say it's not a bomb. Thing is, teachers are not bomb technicians or gun technicians. They aren't there to understand what is and what isn't a bomb, or what is and isn't a real gun. In such a situation, the student needs to respond in a clear manner.
1. Nobody thought it was a bomb. There were no teachers that believed that, nor did law enforcement. 2. Given that he knew it was a clock, and the administration and law enforcement also knew it wasn't a bomb, and didn't suspect that it was, why would he have to clarify something they all knew.
Huh? What? I mean if you just want to split hairs and talk semantics...you win. Enjoy the rest of your day.
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Oh, I get it. Since we're dealing with white people in Irving, maybe Ahmed should have used crayons and a coloring book to explain what electronic circuits look like. His biggest mistake was trying to speak in English to dumbasses in Texas.
He certainly didn't build anything impressive. That doesn't have anything to do with being arrested though. It's not his fault people are treating him like a genius.
He didn't build anything at all, he just repackaged something that was commercially manufactured in a way that could startle people with the hopes of creating a scene.....probably at the behest of his father. Since we are a country of really stupid people, he's making out like a bandit due to this propaganda stunt. The same thing happened to him that would happen to literally any other kid that did the same thing and refused to answer questions about it but because he's a foriegn Muslim there is the assumption of racism which is what makes this a story.
As usual, a very extreme position. So curious, what are you basing your statements? Especially the position that he repackaged it to startle to make a scene? Did the boy state that? Did his dad? And what questions did he refuse to answer? So other than supporting the right-wing narrative... that an evil 14 year old and his dad were exploiting the school and police department because they knew that the kid would be handcuffed and arrested, what facts do you have that counter what likely happened... the school over-reacted, the police over-reacted, and that the boy's religious background might have played a part.
But it isn't just semantics. Did they evacuate the school? Did they handle the apparatus with extra care? Did the law enforcement agents question him about how he got the explosive material to make a bomb? None of that happened. So it leads me to think nobody seriously thought it was a real bomb. I can see a teacher saying it looks like a bomb or anything but still not thinking it was bomb.
It seems like the problem with this whole debate is that one side doesn't have their idea of a narrative behind the story. Some people think the kid was planning a hoax and wanted to scare people into thinking he'd brought a bomb. Then the school and law enforcement believed it was an attempt at a bomb and the child refused to say it wasn't a bomb so he's deserving of suspension and what happened to him. Some people think that everyone knew it wasn't a bomb, and believed he was trying to pull off a hoax so for that reason the kid deserved to be suspended, and everything. So the people who think the kid deserved at least part of the trouble he found himself in can't even agree on what happened. That doesn't seem to point to there being a lot of evidence against him since they aren't even sure what the problem and issue was. With evidence that weak, or just that the kid's story doesn't add up, doesn't really warrant a suspension.
Nah it's just one side really wants him to admit he made a fake bomb, so they can say SEE SEE and it frustrates them to no end the narrative isn't following that.
The real victims here are the six year olds who get suspended for bringing a butter knife to school to spread peanut butter... This story line is so blurred. I would imagine that the school officials knew fairly quickly that this was not a bomb but they have to act decisively and harshly so as to send a message to the world, the other kids and the community. Then good ole Microsoft rewards the kid to confound the whole situation.
I think when schools wrongly call police on students and then suspend them we all lose. I don't think we have enough reliable information to know that the kids story doesn't add up. I see ways that it makes logical sense. And my point is that if his story doesn't add up, is that enough to suspend a kid?
This guy built a clock that looks like a mini suitcase bomb... he get's suspended, a white house tweet, a white house invite, lifetime nasa camp, free microsoft products, and whatever else they're throwing at him in less then a day. His presidential candidate (in Sudan) dad get's free publicity. I think Ahmed made out like a bandit. Pop tart gun kid get's suspended and get's nothing. It all sounds a bit suspicious to me. Zero tolerance is idiotic but if you are going to suspend pop tart kid.. then damn well better suspend Ahmed the clock forgerer. You can't have it both ways. This is not a race issue like the media and white house have been spewing lately.. this is about no tolerance not race. The teachers did the right thing in reporting a suspicious device (It may look like a POS to most technically inclined but sure looks more real then a gun shaped into a pop tart.) Cops may have overreacted but then again... if it was scripted then it may have been the plan all along to make the story go viral and to continue the race baiting agenda or whatever agenda the dad dragged his son into.
One, I can't believe we're still talking about this. Two, I can't believe the ridiculous conspiracy theories that have evolved over the past few days to justify people's suspicions in the absence of any evidence. Facts don't fit the narrative? Make the narrative even more far-fetched to explain away the lack of facts! I'll refer you to Occam's razor.
I invoked Occam's razor when arguing with ATW several days ago in this thread. I was defending the kid then based on what we were told, but now it sounds like the most likely scenario is that he was trying to play a joke and it backfired. He was an idiot and the cops overreacted.
My perspective is: It is annoying this kid is being treated as a genius for inventing a clock at 14, when he did not. There are kids actually deserving of all the attention Ahmed has received. The kid is receiving all of this free stuff, and getting treated as a hero when students are unjustly punished under zero tolerance policies all over the country. Just last year, my sons' elementary school suspended a boy who brought a nerf gun in for a show and tell about your favorite toy. In the interview, he essentially admits to it being suspicious. Then we have Mark Cuban saying what he heard happened, which fits the narrative of a hoax. We want the school/police to rethink how they handle these situations, but we also want everyone to take Ahmed off a pedestal. At the very best he was just subject to a misunderstanding that didn't have terrible consequences. At the very worst he is being rewarded for a hoax (he would hardly be the first in the internet age to do so).
Tell me you are playing devils advocate. The student's direct quote says the teacher thought it was a threat and that it looked like a bomb. What more are you looking for?
