It’s time to define Islamism as a crime against humanity

Really? Well, I hope neither radical Islamists nor the KKK are insulted.

The point is that it's not a logical comparison: a relatively small group concentrated in a single country and with a history of only ~150 years to a global religion with millions of adherents (and hundreds of thousands of extremists) and thousands of years worth of history. A more apt comparison would be Christianity to Islam (and extremists therein) or the KKK to a group like Hezbollah.

 

It is time to make neocons ideology a crime against humanity.



It may be time to to place Germany under a receivership if Neo Nazism is taking over.

About the only response worthy of this hysteria/obsession.

 

This could probably be examined on a per capita basis. Furthermore, the KKK is being overstated as the sole or primary force of racial violence in the Jim Crow era.

 

How? What makes news as effectively as blowing people up? This is a silly expectation - making speeches or statements or talking about moderate ideology isn't going to make the news. Ever.

 

I agree with you on a per capita basis, there are far more Muslims world wide and a majority of them have not committed violence in the name of Islam.

I am only saying on an overall gl

 

*On an overall global level, far more violence has been committed in the name of Islam than by the KKK.

 

It certainly can be said about most if not virtually all religions in power. Religion is a reflection of people.

The issue is that RIGHT NOW there is a great deal of blood shed in the name of Islam and the question is where is do we have a limit to the amount of violence we will tolerate or not.

If we lived in the Middle Ages we would be having this same discussion about Catholicism.

 

I rather think it is power that is the most potent motivation for violence, and actually as a notable subset of that, keeping political Islam down as well as up:

lest one can explain to me the common theme that links Assad's massacres (two generations) with the violence in Egypt, Saddam before he became uncool, and all of the puppet regimes pre-Arab Spring.

If Islamism is indeed a crime against humanity, bombings, drones, and puppet dictatorships, have seen to the fact that it is "punished". Overstating this global alarm bell is nothing new, adds nothing to the discussion, and ultimately, can be harmful based on overreaction (as we saw with the continued efforts at "regime change" in multiple nations that Bush Admin. officials were planning).

Violence everywhere is to be condemned.

 

Well, it's better than the personal insults:

Your thread and posting style adds nothing new to the discussion beyond inflammatory rhetoric. The article adds nothing new at all, and since you didn't comment beyond that, by default there is nothing really to discuss here beyond your choice of others' words.

Your thinking is in line with a vein of thinking that has prompted invasion after invasion from Afghanistan to Mali. The saddest thing to see is people trumpeting this like it's some grand revelation, meanwhile, it's not as if mechanized drones hunt people who espouse violence in the name of Islam, and multiple nations have had dictators installed, and massacres tolerated to keep political Islam down.

We get it. Extreme political Islam that orients towards violence is bad. I don't think you'll find dissenters here. However, your narrow-minded focus on the issue doesn't add anything that hasn't already been discussed ad nauseam, and makes your world view very incoherent, because you find it hard to square away what happens when the forces that be that do suppress extreme political Islam commit terrible massacres on their end---thus your ambivalence about the Assad regime, and Egypt.

Beyond encouraging more blood for blood, I do not see what argument you are attempting to build. What more do you want done to suppress extreme political Islam beyond killing a bunch of people (which hey, tends to promote extreme political Islam!).

In order to be constructive, and actually build solutions rather than engineer problems, one must condemn violence everywhere, instead of focusing on one narrow subset. Only then, can one be placed in the frame of mind to address the situation at hand, rather than inflaming it.

Coherent enough?

 

I can't help it if you choose to misunderstand, but the reality is, your way of thinking is destructive.

I think it'd help you immensely (and this is even on a personal level) to think more constructively.

Instead of thinking of problems, think solutions.

It'd make you a better read for me, in any case. I know you won't give a s**t about that, but on top of the lower blood pressure, and better life expectancy, I think it's a nice little perk if you want to thank me.

I see you've improved though, from launching insults to not. Congrats.

 

ohh, sudden clarity.

Tell me, those who commit those acts, hell those who might have the minutest association with those acts, how are they dealt with? At best, they're fugitives. At worst, they're tortured, and languishing in a jail without basic rights. Somewhere in between, they're dead, killed by Western military forces intervening in their country, or a drone that earmarks them and probably several civilians, for death.

Your brave quest to enlighten everybody on this forum as to the violent excesses of extremists is futile, because it's not as if it's escaped the notice of military and defense forces worldwide, who are dealing with it in their sordid ways, and have been for several decades. Has that worked? Well...hmm. What could work better?

That discussion might be interesting. Your discussion highlights a problem the world is keenly aware of, and adds nothing to it. Your vein of thinking has been the rationale behind invasion after invasion after invasion, and several puppet dictatorships that do undesirable things like massacre their own people. It is hard not to see how pressing that alarm bell, rather than moving towards positive change, has caused in turn, significant damage. Fighting fire with fire tends to do that.

well, unless you want to propose some constructive solutions, really, all I see in this thread is inflammatory rhetoric, and the same old way of thinking, typical of your threads, really.

 

What are the core teachings of Islam? Not blaming the religion for these terroristic acts, but why does it so happen that almost all of these guys are Muslims? Does Islam say somewhere to **** up others whom you deem as disrespectful to Allah?

 

Lets just say it is extremely bi-polar when it comes to treating non-believers.