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Israel's insanity

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by insane man, Dec 27, 2008.

  1. Northside Storm

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    Isreal is being held to a double standard. That's what makes it different from the Mexico/Canada situation.

    Which it should be, what with it being one of the most advanced nations in the world, with a military arsenal wined and dined at America's expense and a democratic system in place versus the s***hole that is the Gaza Strip.
     
  2. Ottomaton

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    Just as Galileo was 'argued down and disproved' by the church in Rome.

    There is nothing that has been disproved. There are a whole lot of people who would have one of the talking points of their faith challenged by a rational examination of the facts. These people 'knew' the answer before the question was even examined.
     
  3. conquistador#11

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    umm don't you know, catholic priests or catholics who stand up to corruption and serve as the voice for the oppressed are terrorists themselves! they should all be killed.

    signed,
    hayes and ref
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  4. JeopardE

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    The beatings will continue until morale improves.
     
  5. God's Son

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    iam not palestinian iam black and i think that country (israel) is as bad as white racists who lynched black babies in the south 50 years ago. its policies are wrong and we are feeding it and yes its worst than iran or pakistan in my eyes. iam amazed people who went through holocaust can be cold blodded with other people and my friends feel the same way

    i hate racism anywhere in the world and if israel continues to insist on racism then it should be destroyed. if palistinians did the same thing they should suffer the same. so yes i hate israel the racist state. there is no diff between white supremacist and jewish supremacist

    ur turn to tell me if ur jewish. iam not jewish or arabic but my peoples history makes me understand racism anywhere

    sorry if iam rude but i had to say it. humanists all over the world in europe and canada and here in america hate israel for same reasons i do and some of them are white and jewish people too.
     
  6. Kwame

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    Israel had been enforcing a blockade (which I think is an act of war, not sure though) on Gaza for a while now...denying all those people food, medicine, and other basic materials, but all the media is talking about is rocketfire by homemade rockets coming from Gaza. Sounds like the media and some of you guys get your talking points straight from AIPAC and other members of the Zionist lobby. Jigga, I have no idea what you're trying to say and I don't think you do either.
     
  7. mrdave543

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    nice spelling and use of the spacebar, iam.
     
  8. bigtexxx

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    His punctuation could use help, too. Don't forget that.
     
  9. Kwame

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    Here's more information-

    Israel Radio reported that two laboratories in the university were targeted. The IDF said the buildings were used to store rockets and explosives.

    Other targets were a guest palace used by the Hamas government, and the house next to Hamas Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh's home in a refugee camp next to Gaza City. He was not home, as Hamas leaders have gone into hiding.

    Seven Palestinians were killed in the late night strikes, according to Israel Radio. A total of 307 Palestinians were reported to have been killed in the IDF operation.


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    Fear of rockets sends Israeli hospital underground

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081228/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_israel_underground_hospital

    ASHKELON, Israel – The largest hospital on Israel's southern coast has gone underground.

    Wary of a missile strike against it from the nearby Gaza Strip, Ashkelon's Barzilai Hospital has moved its most essential departments into an underground bomb shelter.

    The threat is a real one: In February a rocket from Gaza landed adjacent to the hospital's helicopter pad and in May a rocket crashed into a busy shopping mall in the city, injuring 14 people
     
  11. Air Langhi

    Air Langhi Contributing Member

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    The US should strongly condemn Israel and send aid to Palestine. This would create a positive image in the arab world. This would stop isreal for a little bit. Then there can be some negotiations. If Hamas keeps lobbing missiles then we can we will have more support if we want to punish Palestine.
     
  12. DudeWah

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    Avoid his question, and change the subject by bashing his grammar. The best way to divert a conversation is through an insult right? :rolleyes:
     
  13. Kwame

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    It's obvious you don't condemn it. It's a PR victory for the Zionist lobby that people are harping on these homemade rockets while Israel was denying food, medicine, and other basic materials to Gaza long before any of this with a blockade...but, hey let's talk about those rockets again.
     
  14. HombreDeHierro

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    LOL @ the US doing anything for Palestine. The war will be with Israel at its core. US has, and will always be pro-Israel forever. This goes further than just politics...its got prophecies and religion in it.
     
  15. shastarocket

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    well buddy, this has been disproven by actual scholars using rational arguments in a modern society. Not by religious fanatics in a society that distrusted anything contrary to their teachings. For starters here is a link that discusses the thought pattern behind disproving that book and criticizing the author.

    http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Text/Gilchrist/GilJeffery.html

    By the way, that situation of "knowing" the answer before the question was even examined is most explicitly demonstrated by Jeffrey in his book. Kind of makes you wonder whether you just cited this to shut up some proud Muslims or actually studied it, huh?
     
  16. Ottomaton

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    Very nice. An angry Islamist anti-western agenda site as proof that it has been studied by dispassionate, unbiased scholars.

    Great.

    [rquoter]

    Arthur Jeffery also holds the dubious distinction of calling Muhammad(P) a robber chief, second only to Professor David Margoliouth. Jeffery says:

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    At Medina, he was what might justly call a robber chief, just as David, King of Israel, was in his early days.

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    All this was done to compare and contrast Muhammad(P) with the "life of our Lord." Hallmark of a true Christian indeed! If he has so much hatred for the Prophet(P) of Islam, how is that one can expect him to be objective in his criticism of what was revealed to him?

    [/rquoter]

    That's some great, objective criticism of his work, right there. But even so, he compares him to King David, and he's "expressing so much hatred for the prophet of Islam"? Uh... Ok. Put aside for a moment that the facts basically prove the 'objectionable characterization' to be correct and the fact that King David is basically the most revered individual in the Old Testament among Christians.

    That is an objective and open minded refutation of the text on the basis of its merits? That is objectivity? That is an examination of the merits of the book?

    In your world, apparently, anything but fawning adoration is heresy and blasphemy? Enjoy living in the 19th century.
     
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  17. eckostylez

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    It's not even close to a valid comparison. It would be a valid comparison if:

    a) 11% of the population is Mexican/Canadian immigrants
    b) they demand the USA be turned into the United States of Mexico or Canada
    c) the UN agrees to there demands

    An apple and a banana are not the same JUST because they are both fruits.

    Also Mahatma Gandhi, one of the most non-violent persons to ever live, once said you cannot blame the Arab resistance in the face of overwhelming odds.

    But you obviously don't know much about what's going on there, or the history of it... 'Save up and buy a plane ticket and leave'? Really? Where are you going to get the money? Where are you going to get the job? What airport are you going to use? The one in Rafah has been closed for so long (close to Kerem Shalom).

    Do you even know how bad Rafah is? Palestinian kids have been sniped in the head by 'bored' Israeli guards in watchtowers as they walk home from school. What type of life is that to live?

    So if you want to call someone a moron, then yes, you can call the state of Israel a moron. You can call America/Harry Truman a moron. The UN is the biggest moronic organization, for violating its own charter and giving Israel its own Jewish state.

    Zionism fails
     
  18. basso

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    looks like the Obama Doctrine would support Israeli actions.

    Hamas' chickens, coming home to roost.
     
  19. weslinder

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    Jesus isn't from Palestine? :confused:
     
  20. s land balla

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    You mean the ones that killed 3 people? :confused:

    300 > 3.

    Signed,

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