WRONG they hate us becasue we are the only ones with the VETO amongst the countries you mentioned and we used it more than 70 times to justify the Israeli attacks on them. They hate us becasue the weapons that are blowing their children are all made in USA provided for FREE.
Actually, the Israelis make a lot of their own weaponry and amunition. They also buy from just about every other major arms exporter: Britain, France, Russia, and China.
=/ It was never a big deal when argentina's right wing practiced anti-semitism. It was in argentina where reagan trained contras knowing very well about argentina's link with nazism. That's why i was calling out the hypocrisy of the U.S. with inspector gadget. It's a great comparison, just like Mexico launching missles at Mexicans in the U.S! To label israel as uniters, and hamas as a terrorist organization is complete bull roar. Why can't we all just label each other terrorists? I would not have a problem with that. It's equal treatment that I want. U.S= terrorists china= terrorists Israel = terrorists Cuba =terrorists soviet union = terrorists venezuela = terrorists el salvador= terrorists colombia's right wing paramilitaries= terrorists colombia's left wing guerrillas= terrorists It would save everyone time, and we would be doing jesus a huge favor by leaving him out of our own political agenda. Give to palestine, what belongs to palestine and to god what is god's.
It looks like there is a lot of insanity to go around. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28522118/ Jews in Europe targeted as Gaza anger grows Violent attacks reported in Britain, France, Denmark, Sweden, Belgium PARIS - Signs are mounting that the conflict in Gaza is starting to spill over into violence in Europe's towns and cities, with assaults against Jews and arson attacks on Jewish congregations in France, Sweden and Britain. Assailants rammed a burning car into the gates of a synagogue in Toulouse, in southwest France, on Monday night. A Jewish congregation in Helsingborg, in southern Sweden, also was attacked Monday night by someone who "broke a window and threw in something that was burning," said police spokesman Leif Nilsson. Neighbors alerted rescue services before the fire took hold. Someone also started a blaze outside the premises last week. And on Sunday slogans including "murderers ... You broke the cease-fire" and "don't subject Palestine to ethnic cleansing" were daubed on Israel's embassy in Stockholm. In Denmark, a 27-year-old Dane born in Lebanon of Palestinian parents is alleged to have injured two young Israelis last week, opening fire with a handgun in a shooting that police suspect could be linked to the Gaza crisis. France has Western Europe's largest Jewish and Muslim communities and a history of anti-Semitic violence flaring when tensions in the Middle East are high. In 2002, some 2,300 Jews left France for Israel because they felt unsafe. President Nicolas Sarkozy warned in a statement Tuesday that France would not tolerate violence linked to the Gaza crisis. A day earlier, his interior minister said she was concerned about the prospect of contagion and met with the heads of the two main Muslim and Jewish groups and police officials to stress the need to "preserve national unity." Damage to the synagogue in Toulouse was limited to a blackened gate, and there were no injuries even though a rabbi was giving a course to adults inside, authorities said. They said unlighted gasoline bombs were also found in a car nearby and in the synagogue's yard. A local Jewish leader, Armand Partouche, said he believed the assailants had planned to torch the synagogue, but fled when the building's alarm went off. "It could have been very, very serious," Partouche said in a telephone interview. "There were people inside; there could have been deaths." He said Jewish leaders are asking Toulouse authorities for reinforced security for the city's synagogues. "We really fear that anti-Semitism will spring up again and that the current conflict will be transposed to our beautiful French republic," he said. In Britain, the Community Security Trust, a Jewish defense group, said it had seen a rise in anti-Semitic incidents since the start of Israel's offensive against Gaza. The group said it had recorded 20-25 incidents across the country in the past week that it believed were connected with Gaza, including an arson attempt on a synagogue in north London on Sunday. London police are investigating the attack, in which suspects splashed flammable liquid on the door and set it on fire. 'It could get worse' Community Security Trust spokesman Mark Gardner said that in another incident last week a gang of 15-20 youths walked along the main street in Golders Green, a largely Jewish neighborhood in north London, shouting "Jew" and "Free Palestine" at passers-by. "It could get worse," Gardner said. "We tend to see these things happen in waves." The government in Belgium on Tuesday ordered police in Antwerp and Brussels to be on increased alert after recent pro-Palestinian protests ended in violence and dozens of arrests. Police said burning rags were shoved through the mailbox of a Jewish home in Antwerp last weekend. Damage was limited and no arrests were made. In the Danish shooting, one Israeli man was shot in the arm and another in the leg as they were selling hair care products in a shopping mall. Eli Ruvio, who owns the company that operated the stands, said his employees have been harassed by Muslim youths since they set up three kiosks in the shopping center in August. "They kept cursing and shouting at us," Ruvio told The Associated Press. He added that the Muslim youths also threw mud and firecrackers at the employees and spat at them. Ruvio recalled an episode Dec. 27 when some of the youths shouted "slaughter all the Jews." "I told my employees not to speak in Hebrew and lie about where they come from, they should say there were from Spain or somewhere else. If people ask you where you are from, never say you're from Israel," he said.
thats incredibly disingenuous. obviously not everything is US made. but a large part is. e.g. idf aircrafts.
I don't think they so much hate our freedoms as they hate our culture which shouldn't be surprising since we obviously hate a lot of things about their culture too. The problem with throwing a statement like that out is that presents an overly simplistic view and while they hate our culture it certainly isn't the driving motivation behined Islamic terrorism. For example almost all of Osama Bin Ladin and Al Zwahari's speeches focus on political and historical issues to justify their actions.
Hayes is correct that Israel makes a lot of its own weapons, in fact I believe many of Israels arms are considered superior to US. He is also right they buy a lot of arms from other suppliers. The one thing to be considered though is that the US gives Israel a lot of money to buy or manufacture those arms.
The problem though is that as long as we fund and diplomatically support Israel this will be our problem.
I don't think it's simplistic when you consider the people we're talking about have stated democracy is antithetical to their preferred outcome. Again, I'm not saying our policies don't incite action, I'm saying it's also incorrect to assert their worldview doesn't directly conflict with democracy. It's incredibly silly to call me disingenuous when I'm merely pointing out facts. The claim was that all arms Israel uses are American. That is false. Further, a large portion of their arms are not American. That is indisputable.
Now that it appears even UN schools are fair game, I guess the question really begs to be asked which 'building next door' are Gazans to flock to for refuge? I hope at least leaflets were dropped in advance.
that's why obama has to say enough is enough...and make funding/arms sales conditional on israel meeting certain goals as defined by us. israel doesn't want to concede on certain points. palestine doesn't want to concede on certain points. therefore, the countries holding the leash on these little children need to pull them along and force them to concede on certain points. they had their chance...and they suck at getting anywhere. f em.
I'm grateful that I live in the US and not in Europe right now. There is still too much anti-semitism for my tastes, especially among populations with a lot of Arabs. For all the arguments that people make that "being anti-Israel is not being anti-Jewish" 100% of the time the recent attacks of Jews and synogauges is the counterargument. This is exactly why we must have an all Jewish nation to escape persecution from hateful and murderous a-holes. I fear this is only going to get uglier. As I have always denounced violence against Muslims after 9/11, I expect the same from the other side when it comes to Jews around the world.
Maybe the Palestinians could send some leaflets to the Israelis advising them to leave before firing any rockets. Then they could be humanitarians also.
hamas was the electoral victor. it could have formed a government on its own. this election and the previous creating/empowering of the prime minister position was done because of US and israeli insistence on the PA since the hated terrorist at the time was arafat. after hamas won, and especially after hamas took over gaza since fatah unilaterally and illegally took power. israel's response was to punish gaza collectively in order to squeeze hamas out of power. pray tell how israeli's view (and that of a large part of EU and the US) on gaza is not in direct conflict with democracy. financial times editorial a couple days ago: i agree that the original post was incorrect, i stated such. but all aircrafts used in the air offensive have been american (aside from the drones). when apaches and f-16s bomb, necessarily this has a significant impact on the arab street. and while this is disproportionate many times, your attempt to argue semantics, i found was disingenuous.
When they march, the cry is "Itbach al Yahud" and "Falastin balad’na w’al Yahud qalab’na". Not slaughter the Israelis. Slaughter the Jews.
One of the things that is important to know is that the Israelis have jailed many Israeli Arabs and non Israeli Palestinians for engaging in peaceful protest. I remember reading how the Israelis deported a Palestinian activist years ago who looked like he might be the Ghandi of the Palestinians. This was extremely threatening to the Israelis. It would be tough, as the Israelis are very determined, many Palestinians would have to beaten, jailed and probably .some killed, but a Ghandian type movement might succeed in liberating the Palestinians. The question is whether the Palestinians could harness the determination that leads even to suicide bombing to the cause of non-violence. A boycott of Israel such as was done on behalf of blacks in South Africa will eventually probably be the undoing of Israeli intransigence.
