Where's that jackie chiles character? His silence on this topic has pretty much condemned him. Although, he was quick to yell and scream anti-semetism while running to the defense of the Israeli regime in the other thread discussing Israel's invasion of Gaza.
What this story tells me is that there is no such thing as a clean or precise war. You can have all the smart weapons you want but in the end there are humans operating them.
LOL that dude is just a hater. He hates Muslims and I've never ever reported any posts except one of his. Any ways, I missed this article somehow and it basically confirms the obvious...that Israel went too far and were not simply "defending themselves". UN regulations do not apply to Isreal.
Just to make it clear it's religion that is causing this problem right? For the past couple of thousand of years haven't they been fighting because of religion?
If it were not for religion we'd be fighting due to something else, its in our nature....we are the problem not religion.
All kinds of peoples have been fighting eachother in that region for thousands of years. Religion is a factor, but not the only one.
Before the late 19th century, Jews haven't been fighting with much of anyone in the Middle East for almost two millenia.
This is complicated. It goes back to Mohamed. When he wrote the Quran, he assumed that Jews would love his religion, and would happily adopt it, leaving their religion. The guy had no understanding of human nature. Jews had no interest in his warmed over tracts, and he got more and more upset about it. So did his followers. The Jews, for their part, have been the odd man out for centuries, so they really didn't care what some new kid on the block might say or not say. Christians had been trying to convert them for some time (and some still are, e.g. these execrable Jews for Jesus). Who cares? What difference does one more nut case make? This has infuriated the Muslims, of course, because when the Jews just go about their business and gently say, "No thank you," when asked to convert, it send a message to the Muslims that their own religon isn't all it's cracked up to be (which is true, of course). Now when you're a warlike group, and you have the power over others, and they don't adopt your most precious religious beliefs, what do you do? Well, that's an easy question, because we all know that you torture, rape, maim and murder them, which is just what the Muslims did, if in measured steps. Always looking for the good business deal, they found a way to oppress their enemies and make some money at the same time: they kidnapped them and sold them as slaves. They did this to Christians as well as Jews. In Africa, they do it still today. A little casual research will demonstrate that what I'm saying is true. Today, there is a totally new development. There are a large number of Jews who, for the first time in history, not only refuse to take the abuse that has been given them for thousands of years, but they have the will and the highly developed martial skills to make it stick. If there was any doubt, we need only look at the way the Jews cleaned house against the Arabs in one war after another. When some thugs kidnapped a large number of people and held them thousands of miles away, the Jews put together a rescue operation, and they killed all the captors and lost only one or two hostages and one soldier in the operation. Nothing makes people hate you more than beating them at their own game of violence. The Muslims are just livid at the Jews because the Jews are able to hit back when attacked, and hit back with surgical accuracy. Islamic countries are in terrible shape by all standards. Citizens know that their culture used to be respectable, but is no longer so. They used to have great institutions of learning, but now they are the backwater of the world, barely civilized in any real sense of the word. What happened, they ask. What happened was that Islam became incredibly, incurably corrupt. It has no real moral center that can sustain it. Also, however, almost every one of the Muslim countries is run by some kind of thug strong man or corrupt so-called king. The people are in bad straits and the governments look around for ways to distract the citizens from the awful conditions in their miserable countries. One thing they've gotten a lot of use out of is the hate for the Jews. So most of the anti-Jewish hatred is the result of campaigns to produce this in all the Islamic countries. Today, the Arabs are telling over and over the lies that Israel is oppressing Palestinians. The fact is, if you read the papers, all the violence done against Palestinians would end tomorrow if the Palestinians would stop attacking Israel. Sounds one-sided, but it's true. The Arabs have nearly a million square miles of land, and Israel has one piece that is about the size of Connecticut. (!!) And the Arabs want more land???? It's not going to work, and it should not work. They will just have to find some real estate for those Palestinians. God knows they've got tons of it. Agree or disagree, my take on it after doing an extensive amount of research.
To an extent yes. Having known people who served in the IDF I do believe in general they try to be moral but war is a situation that severely test anyone's morality. Without knowing more I don't believe the IDF soldiers are inherently immoral or amoral but it doesn't surprise me that they committed immoral acts. I doubt there is an army out there that hasn't. This is why I believe that the only way to prevent such things is to avoid war as much as possible.
Wow! That is an incredibly bad and misguided analysis. Your account of history is highly simplified and quite misleading, and is anything but a "fact". You sure you are not a bitter former Gaza settler or something? ;-) I am part Jewish myself, but of the more secular sane variety. The Arab-Jewish conflict is a modern 20th century phenomena, and it is pretty much entirely over the piece of real estate we call the Holy Land. The UN partition of modern Israel/Palestine was the fuse that lit the fire, not religious divisions. Arabs who used to lived on that land were unhappy with the partition and refused to recognize its legitimacy, viewing it as yet another attempt to colonize the region. They fought, and were defeated and displaced by the Jewish settlers through a series of wars. You can blame whomever you want, but I do not think it is fair to discredit all that Arabs and Muslims did for my ancestors for many centuries, while Europeans and Christians were less than hospitable, to say the least. Yes, the last century has witnessed an alarming rise in anti-Jewish sentiments, but that is more likely tied into political tensions and the Arab-Israeli conflict, not some innate hatred or a compulsion to kill Jews. If they wanted to wipe us out, they had nearly a thousand years to try and do it, or they could have just handed us over to the Germans and French. There is simply no support for your thesis of the genocidal Arab or Muslim. Jewish civilization flourished right along Muslim civilization, especially in Muslim Spain. Lets focus on the real culprits here: those damn Germans! If it was not for the Holocaust, there may not have been a need for an Israel today. One reason I will always be a proud Russian is the fact that we were at the forefront of crushing the Germans. It took a huge toll on the Russian nation, but to me that has to be the proudest moment in the history of the motherland.
Anytime your research gives you such a black and white story, you should question the source of your information. Don't mean to doubt your truthfulness on being a buddhist, but whenever sticky topics come up, everyone becomes a buddhist
I don't need to do an extensive amount of research to disagree with that. For that matter did you do research for that or was taht off of the top of your head?
I'm Vietnamese, I don't think I'm allowed to be Muslim or Jewish Blame youtube videos and yahoo answers for my biased opinions
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Anyone on earth is allowed to be Muslim. I won't point out the numerous errors in your long post, but rest assured there are many factual mistakes as a few people have already pointed out. An extensive amount of research is worthless if the quality of references is poor. I can compile tons of research on poor sources. But I think the mistake you fell into is not that your intentions were bad. I think the problem is the difficulty in finding correct info and the ease of finding poor information. This is admittedly something which needs to be resolved. If you're interested in having good sources, please let me know and I'll gladly email some to you. You shouldn't get your answers from youtube or yahoo answers. By default, those with the most internet connections will have a larger say and therefore it will be assumed that the majority is correct. If you really have no choice but the internet, then be careful in selecting your sources. I'm not saying to only select Islamically biased sources. I'm just saying to know who wrote what you're reading. EVERYTHING has a bias. The bias is either negative or positive. So it's best to read a variety and capture the bias.
Cute emoticon. Do you think that somehow Buddhists have been immune from violence? Because if so, I will gladly post evidence to the contrary. Unfortunately for you, being a Buddhist does not make you immune from being ignorant or biased, or even dumb on occasion.
