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Israeli documents show a deliberate policy of keeping Gazans hungry

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Pharaoh King, Nov 10, 2010.

  1. Pharaoh King

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  2. AroundTheWorld

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    So let's see. Uruknet is the ISP of the Saddam regime, is that correct?
     
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    Give us some links that don't have Arabic on them and you might gain some credibility.
     
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    There are reasons to be skeptical but that is a pretty stupid one.
     
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    So you don't trust Israeli sources about Israeli topics?
     
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    I think there is some other evidence that would support this as Israel has admitted to engineering the blockade to hamper Gaza's development and keep Gazan's miserable. It seems logical they would consider keeping the amount of food aid allowed to a minimum.
     
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    This.
     
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    Whoops, accidently repped you...meant to rep geeimsobored
     
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    Little known fact: 94.5% of my rep is from mistakes.

    Also you may dislike what i said, but very few people are going to believe what you are saying unless Yahoo, AP, CBS or even Huffington has it.
     
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    And that's a stupid reason to invalidate a news source, especially when many of those places just regurgitate things from other sources. Hell Huffington Post is just a collection of blogs that report on news stories which would essentially mean that some American blogger quoting this article would somehow make it legitimate?

    You can attack the article on its merits but simply switching the website because there is some arabic on it is so silly. I would hope that our discourse is mature enough to not get caught up in silly things like avoiding arabic writing on websites.
     
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    Israel is one of the worst regimes in the world. Racism is at the core of much of Israeli policy. Its actions vis-a-vis the Palestinians and neighboring Arabs are disgusting. Archbishop Desmond Tutu went to Palestine and said that what's going on there is apartheid. Imagine if Iran were to do something like what the Israelis have done and are continuing to do to the Palestinians. You wouldn't hear the end of it in the MSM. There would be all kinds fake outrage and crocodile tears, but Israel always gets a free pass from the US media. Not to mention US taxpayers are subsidizing this brutal regime as it's the biggest recipient of foreign aid. All of this is absolutely pathetic.
     
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    Interesting reasoning. So I am sure you will not have any objection to this website:

    http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
     
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    Israel is the reason for most of the terrorism in the world.
     
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    ORLY? See link in the post above yours.
     
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    Here is the "news" information from that site:

    2010.11.10 (Baghdad, Iraq) - Islamists blast Christian areas of Baghdad with bombs and mortars, killing at least six.
    2010.11.10 (Pattan, India) - Islamic militants brutally shoot two security personnel to death at point blank range in a market.
    2010.11.09 (Pattani, Thailand) - A 17-year-old boy is ambushed and killed by Mujahideen.
    2010.11.09 (Narathiwat, Thailand) - A woman is gunned down by Islamic insurgents.
    2010.11.09 (Uruzgan, Afghanistan) - Religious extremists attack a police station, killing at least seven inside.
    2010.11.09 (Pattani, Thailand) - A Buddhist man is murdered by Muslim gunmen.


    Are you saying we shouldn't believe these things occurred? There is plenty of opinion on that site as well, and that should be looked at through the prism of the people behind the site. But facts are facts. They either occurred or they didn't.

    The original post was not just opinion; it was about the existence of actual government documents. The site actually not only talks about the documents, but it links to the FOIA request submitted to the government and a PDF of the documents themselves. Unless you have reason to believe an Israeli non-profit supported by organizations ranging from the EU to Microsoft would simply make all that information up, it seems like you're just doing what you always do - trying to believe only what you want and dismiss anything that doesn't fit into your nice little box of make-believe world.
     
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    They did occur. What I am saying is that if we start quoting news from obviously partisan sites, then we might as well look at both sides of the spectrum.
     
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    umm......it is from an ISRAELI organization geniuses! Look at the second link, and I will be glad to try and find the PDF copy of the report or something if you do not think this is an actual legitimate news story. Like the article said, a JEWISH/ISRAELI organization operating IN ISRAEL filed what is similar to a FOIA and obtained these government documents. I understand "Distraction 101" teaches to attack the messenger or if a direct link to the report itself is not provided, but in this case you fail and fail miserably.

    By the way, the website with the English/Hebrew and Arabic is NOT an Arabic site, it is an Israeli one, in fact it is THE aforementioned Israeli organization which filed for and got these documents (GISHA), and that is why i included the second link. For those who are not aware, many Israeli news sites offer up their own online versions of their websites in all three languages, so this is hardly uncommon.

    Distract distract distract!!!
     
  18. Pharaoh King

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    Again: second link, ISRAELI organization/source, not an Arab-Muslim one! :rolleyes:
     
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    Pharaoh King, you didn't need to post the articles so that we know that you hate Israel and jews and that you would like to see Israel wiped off the map. Your previous posts were enough already.
     
  20. geeimsobored

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    Come on man dont go basso on us and post a link that has nothing to do with any of this.

    The original post was dismissing a website solely because Arabic was on it. Arabic is simply a language and its silly to judge anything by that. I dont understand what a website that highlights a bunch of terrorist attacks some how justifies ignoring articles because Arabic writing appears somewhere. The point was that you should read the substance of the article and make a response to the facts or lack of facts in the article rather than dismissing it solely because some funny looking letters are in the banner. All that does is make you look silly and ignorant.
     

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