The irony of asking someone else to start a thread on a contentious topic while you yourself didn't want to do it out of laziness, cowardice, or both ...
Don't be so hard on yourself. I don't care that you told me to start a thread. It was actually amusing. I never had anyone insist that I start a thread that they themselves wanted, but wouldn't start.
Funny it was you who jumped into the middle of my exchange with bigtexxx (who btw had no interest in further debate other than a one-time attempt to detract from the topic at hand) and insisted on talking about something that was completely irrelevant to the thread. I repeatedly asked you to start another thread if you were genuinely interested, and I would join the debate. One can clearly see your only purpose to keep on posting in that thread is to be a troll. And you have the balls to accuse me of running away?
Let's try this again. It's very simple. You made a post on a topic. I made an honest, DIRECT response to YOUR post. Sunsequently you do not respond directly, instead demanding that I start a new thread. I did not troll, your response... has been bizarre. It's been amusing, but becoming tiresome.
Hardly bizarre on my part. Apparently you are incapable of telling the difference between my refusal to let you detract the subject of my thread and the "perceived" -- by you only -- unwillingness to discuss a contentious topic. Let the record show I never intend to avoid the debate in an appropriate thread and your antics have indeed become tiresome.
refrences? Qura'anic dictum, and faulty human development is what the dude wrote after every crap line he posted. i can make some bs up too hinduism allows sex with animals - geeta/vedas dictum.. u see where im goin with this.
Too funny! You made a post in a thread, I responded IN THE SAME THREAD, and I'm wrong for posting in the thread but you aren't? Flawless logic. What's bizarre is demanding someone else to start a thread about something that YOU mentioned in the existing thread. Maybe I'll reconsider...maybe it's just goofy...er...maybe both.
'Both sides' as to whom...the Israeli right and the Israeli left?! Sorry if the article offended your sensibilities (had no idea you were an Israeli), but if you honestly made an attempt to READ the article, you would see that first of all it's not from a bias, anti-Israeli source (indeed, this topic is thoroughly discussed in Israeli papers) and secondly it highlights the strong opposition and criticism of the law from WITHIN Israel itself. I have in the past praised certain aspects of Israeli society (their democratic system, their scientific accomplishments, how there's more freedom to be critical of Israeli policies on Israeli college campuses than there is in the U.S.), and have expressed my opinion that it would be a bad idea to ever abandon Israel as an ally in the region, despite the fact that some posters here disagreed with that. I think your knee-jerk reaction says a lot more about you than anyone else. Also, if you feel like there's an 'imbalance' of opinion regarding Israel on the BBS, why don't you stop being lazy and inform us? b****ing about it is beneath you.
So should we consider you a troll? You know, no substance and constant attempts to derail threads from the main topic of discussion?
its easier to throw around accusations than to defend them. prove to me that the torah/bible/any other book doesnt say men should sleep with other men. im sure you can just tell by seeing the statement that its false, but its hard to show someone that its not there.
cohen, why are you hijacking this thread? why dont you acknowledge israeli racism? if you want to discuss islamic law, start your own thread
Is that all that you gathered from the website? Anti-men on men? Seemed like the focus was on mistreatment of women. Would you like to defend the way women are treated under Sharia? I really don't care if you do. It was not the point of this reference, but since you unequivocally denied all of their assertions seems like you should back it up which I think you are unwilling to do. So you can just go on the record if you do not want to research...are these laws or are they not?
It doesn't take a genius to see that I was the 3rd person to address an 'apparently' analogous topic. Shall you consider the other 2 trolls? Don't try to apologize for wnes. If he makes a claim in a thread, he should be prepared to defend it w/o making ridiculous demands.
It is a problem within Isreal. A mistake. It is irrelevant that they are discussing it internally, but mice attempt to obfuscate. The issue is whether you continue to start anti-Israeli threads or anti-Israeli posts. Why? Because you support Israel, or because it serves US interests? I will admit that I missed where you praised Israel society. So...back on point...does that mean that you feel like you've had a balanced approach to new threads regarding this ME conflict? Where were you years ago when many of us where quite active in the debate? Weren't you on some kind of hiatus? I don't feel compelled to educate anyone; the topics were beat to death.
Do you consider a piece of news that discusses a MAJOR issue in a major Middle Eastern state "anti-Israeli"? That's merely your opinion and you're entitled to it. It's relevant news, which is what the D&D is for. If I really wanted to start a bunch of anti-Israeli threads I would have had at least one article per day, but I am not trigger-happy contrary to your claims. I support the existence of the state of Israel. Does that do it for you or do you have any more questions? Of course, U.S. interests are high on my list as well, and I don't think it's necessarily a choice between supporting Israel or US interests. Yeah, I bet you did. Balanced as to what? I have started threads about terrorist attacks in the past if that's what you're asking. I didn't venture into the D&D until a couple of years ago or less, so if it was before that, then yes I missed it. I am not asking you to 'educate' me, I venture to guess I know a lot more about the conflict than you do, I am simply asking as to why you're complaining about the content of this thread (which discusses a major, controversial event in Israel) when you would rather offer up nothing of substance? Whatever Cohen, sorry if I offended you dude, was not my intent.
You're being disingenuous; I didn't claim you were trigger happy, just inclined to start threads consistently negative towards Israel. And bias is very much a substantive issue in D&D. Cases in point, here are you most recent Israeli threads: * Israeli Citizenship Law sparks controversy * Study: U.S. Mideast policy motivated by pro-Israel lobby * U.S.-Funded Report Urges Israel To Take First Step Toward Nuclear Disarmament * Israelis Grow Troubled by Bush Priorities (...Israel and the United States appear increasingly at odds over what to do about the larger Middle East region) * Secret EU report launches scathing attack on Israel I didn't cherrypick...I don't think I missed any in your first 6 or 7 pages. Was my claim baseless ... or not? Maybe you were unaware?
^You wanna talk about 'negative' threads towards Israel....has there ever been a positive thread about Iran? Practically every single thread re: Iran has been negative and this board is full of people who demonize Iran and don't even know anything about the country other than what they can google. I don't see anybody getting upset when that happens. But supporters of Israel don't even want to allow a debate about Israel to occurr and are quick to label those who do focus on Israel and its atrocious practices as 'anti-Israel' and/or 'anti-semitic.' This is one way to deflect attention away from the issues at hand and hijack the thread.
Yes, your claim is baseless, because all those topics were relevant news, not something I made up to make Israel 'look bad'. The majority of those articles were neutral in content, but newsworthy. In other threads, counterpoints were offered/discussed to balance things out. Just wondering Cohen, what 'positive' news about Israel has been reported lately that I might have missed? Do you know that I read Israeli news on regular basis? Do you understand that the media is in the business of reporting controversial news and everything negative that's happening in the world? That's just the nature of the news business, and the articles I do come across are rarely if ever 'positive' news about anyone, let alone Israel. But they're "news", and I have started threads in the past that might've left a negative impression about Arabs/Muslims, so may be I am just a 'negative' person by nature. News is news man, I am not in the business of reporting them, I just pass on what I come across that I think might be somewhat informative. BTW, may be you should also consider the times I praised Israel for things like the pullout from Gaza, their democratic system, academic freedom, etc. Anyways, you're entitled to your opinion, you can label me 'anti-Israel' or whatever else you please.
No... compare your history of Israel articles vs. Arab threads. ALL of the Israel threads you started were negative. Where all of the Arab threads? Hmmm. ..Qatar to give aid to Katrina victims... oh yeah...balanced and fair. As for 'positive' Israel news...you mentioned some yourself. Was there much better news in the area than the Gaza pull-out? Yet you started no threads on those very items you yourself mentioned. A quick look at current (very recent) Israel news shows that the cabinet is expected to approve the $50m transfer of meds to the PA and the Palestinian General Intelligence Chief Tarek Abu Rajab was treated in a Tel Aviv hospital. Probably similar news almost daily. With all of your extensive reading on the Middle East, it's difficult to imagine you not having the opportunity to start ONE positive thread among all of those consistently negative ones...assuming you are unbiased as you claim.
