Israeli air attack kills 54 civilians, including 19 children

Umm...ok, so you can copy-paste a link. I'm not sure what that article was supposed to prove about anything...?

Not surprising that you would stoop to McCarthyistic tactics. I guess this is where I'm supposed to shut-up and concur with you after that accusation. I'm trembling...really.

 

You are right, this isn't a numbers game and shouldn't be. What do you think think Hezbollah would do if they had the same weapons as Israel? The only reason they are not causing even more death destruction is because they do not have the capacity to do so. That doesn't make them any more moral or just than Israel. War and violence lies in hearts and minds, weapons only make it manifest.

 

um, i was being sarcastic. i thought quoting the clint black song "iraq and roll" would have clued you in, but in hindsight perhaps i should have done a little smiley face or roll eyes.

 

Like I said, it's about the disturbing disregard of human life. They Just Dont Give a F*CK

You'd think Israeli's would know firsthand the value of human life

 

i'm guessing the U.N will have to fight Hezbollah...that's what Israel and the U.S want...I think the killings were planned to get this attention and speed up what they really want...

a perfect plan in my eyes.

 

Ignorance. Beautiful in it's simplicity.

 

What I find to be utter stupidity on the part of Hezbollah is that they had largely won by driving Israel out of Lebanon. Their other goals aren't realistic and aren't really in their purview to achieve. The sooner everyone can accept that Israel is here to stay but so are the Palestinians and they better get used to each other the better off they will be.

 

I feel the same way.

 

That is the point. The whole myth of the blameless Israelis who are always innocemt victims is crumbling. The Israelis are morally indistiguishable from Hezbollah. Hence it is not worth the US becoming a world wide pariah just to support the over the top actions of the current bunch in Israel.

 

krnxsnoopy:

Dead on. I think some Jewish people won't take your post that well, but tell them the truth nonetheless. I believe the Israelis wouldn't have bombed the village if it's consisted of Jewish population, but it's since Lebonese, bomb away. It's easy to shift blame by claiming that terrorists were using the civlians as human shields and legitimize wasting children's lives as necessary collateral damage. The Israelis created half a million refugees and they don't give a crap to them either, how about creating some shelters with food, medication and water for the mess they've done? And we are supposed to believe their "we care about human lives" propaganda when they don't give a sh$t to the suffering of half a million refugees. Israel has done itself in this time, it's ruining its image.

 

Nasrallah is a politician as his finest so in reality I have no idea what his stance on anything is. He panders to the radical segment of the population with statement's declaring (at least implicitly) that Israel has no right to exist and should be done away with and on the other hand in interviews he (albiet hesitantly) states that Israel can exist as long as the Palestinians are ok with that.

Hezbollah in many ways was fighting to maintain a political stronghold in the South and gambled incorrectly that capturing some soldiers would be a great way to rally the radical segment of the population. Instead, Isreal proceeds to try to blow the living daylights out of them but probably has overdone it so much that Hezbollah has gotten the support it strived for in the first place.

The whole place of Hezbollah in Lebanon is a mess. The government hates them, the north hates them, and until recently there were rumblings in the South about Hezbollah's right to exist.

Both sides completely miscalculated this time but Israel, in my opinion, made the larger mistake and in the process has given new life to an organization that in my opinion was slipping away into irrelevance.

 

Oh no, no problem. All the 'poor little', 'victimized' Jewish people love racism.

How about you panda? What's your nationality so we can generalize, stereotype and the like. Or maybe something like 'Nanking? So what, look what the Chinese did to the Tibetans. Look at what their puppet gov does to the North Koreans'. Does that despicable logic make sense to you?

 

How did I generalize or stereotype Jews in my post? I suggested some Jews would not acknowledge the current Israel actions against Lebonese are disregarding human lives, and when it's pointed out they have a problem with it. Is that not the case? How is that stereotyping Jews? Matters are open to debate, do I need to discuss my nationality and China's past to mention what I said?

I didn't suggest Israel is practicing racism so I'm not sure why you bring it up, instead, it's obvious that posters including me are not happy about Israel bully the defenseless Lebonese which holds the non-Israeli lives of little concern. I'm more interested in substantial discussion which I found void in your response on my post.

 

The day when guys like Cohen start to engage in substantial discussions is when there may be hope for peace in Middle East.

 

Btw...when are you going to engage in this "substantial" discussion as well?

 

LOL ... when you ROXRAN slowly twist the knife into the heart of Cuban terrorist Luis Posada Carriles.

But seriously, my opinions carry far less weight on Middle East, especially on Israel than those of Cohen. This is not self depreciation. It's only when Israelis/Jewish Americans themselves (I reasonably assume Cohen is one) start to look objectively and fairly, i.e., with less emotional sidetrack, into the problems that are faced by Israel do they have realistic chance of making peace and co-existing with their Arab neighbours.

 

damn, wnes that was actually a good post...sorry.

 

All he said was that he hoped no Jewish people would be offended by the following post. How is that a generalization?

 

Your mom.

 

Yeah So maybe I was a bit p*ssed off and said something things that were politically incorrect or were stereotypes. BUT WHO CARES?? 60 people(30 of them children) just died for no reason, and you're worried about stereotypes? Yeah you can dog on me about my rant earlier.. thats fine, but It still doesnt change the fact Israel is STILL killing innocent lives

Oh nice one, on assuming(stereotyping) Panda is Chinese just because of the Panda bear. And that I am North Korean.(My family is from South Korea btw/ very different)