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Israeli air attack kills 54 civilians, including 19 children

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Samar, Jul 30, 2006.

  1. KingCheetah

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    The Crips in South L.A. are causing the rest of the country too much trouble -- we need to start an intense bombing/ artillery campaign and destroy Compton.

    Sincerely,
    Israeli logic
     
  2. Franchise2001

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    Let me first preface this by saying that my heart sank when I first heard of what happened. The victims of war are always civilians and it hurts to see it when it happens. I have made a few statements in the past few weeks that were pretty immature and borderline ignorant, but they were made out of frustration and anger.

    I don't see this war stopping anytime soon. Hezbollah is touting longer ranged missiles and Israel has act with more force because of this. Syria and Iran have threatened to join in. They accuse the US and Israel of wanting a new middle east. This is pure turnspeak (accusing one of something you, and not that party, are guilty of). Hezbollah exists to wipe Israel off the map. The Lebanese government did not lift one finger against Hezbollah when the kidnapping took place and now they are thanking them for fighting Israel. I'm sorry when I say that something stinks here.

    As far as saying that Hezbollah is seeing rising support in the US people other than Muslims and anti-Israel ultraliberals... I say prove it. Americans won't forget that before 9/11 Hezbollah killed more Americans than any other Muslim organization.

    The war will continue and people are going to die. Its a cold reality. Hezbollah is a "resistance movement" for the people and the people that support them and house them are going to suffer just like they did in Qana. It breaks my heart, but its the truth.
     
  3. Franchise2001

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    What strategy could they use to minimize civilian deaths? Its not like an all out ground assault wouldn't put civilians in the crossfire any less. Hezbollah is firing missiles randomly into Israeli towns now showing no regard for civilians. Also, compare the total civilian deaths/civilian population ratio.

    You can have your own opinion about who are "the good guys" but the majority of Americans will see Israel as them regardless of the anti-Israeli / anti-Jewish propaganda that is spewed out over arab media.
     
  4. thacabbage

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    Ummm no. This is the umpteenth time that you have spouted this BS.


    Glad to see you corrected yourself. :rolleyes:
     
  5. thacabbage

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    You have got to be kidding me if you are actually rationalizing this latest action by Israel, thought I'm not surprised coming from you. With the level of sophistication of Israel's (*cough* our *cough*) weaponry and intelligence, please don't make light of this by claiming it was somehow unavoidable or an accident.

    60 innocents dead in the latest ruthless assault by the Zionists is not exactly propoganda.
     
  6. T-Mac1

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    Yesha Rabbinical Council: During time of war, enemy has no innocents

    Yesha Rabbinical Council: During time of war, enemy has no innocents

    The Yesha Rabbinical Council announced in response to an IDF attack in Kfar Qanna that "according to Jewish law, during a time of battle and war, there is no such term as 'innocents' of the enemy."
    All of the discussions on Christian morality are weakening the spirit of the army and the nation and are costing us in the blood of our soldiers and civilians," the statement said. (Efrat Weiss)


    (07.30.06, 17:37)

    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3283720,00.html

    :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

    Are these guys nuts ??
     
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  7. MR. MEOWGI

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    It doesn't matter. There is no good fighting here. None. They both want to destroy each other. They both consider each other evil. You can't just blame one side in this.

    So you also can not take one side, or there will never be peace. We all have to look at each other and recognize ourselves in each other.
     
  8. Franchise2001

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    Like I said, Hezbollah is touting longer ranged missiles so if the IDF see's missiles coming from apartment buildings then they must fire back.

    Option A:
    1. Hezbollah fires from an apartment building surrounded by civilians.
    2. Israel fires into the apartment building
    3. Apartment building is destroyed along with a few other surrounding buildings.
    4. Lebanese civilians die.

    Option B:
    1. Hezbollah fires from an apartment building surrounded by civilians.
    2. Israel DOES NOT fire into the building.
    3. More missiles are fired into Israel from the "safe" location.
    4. Israeli civilians die.

    If you were the Israeli government, which one would you choose?

    And how do you know they intentionally killed the civilians? Were you there? You must go to the Kofi Annan school of premature accusations and ejaculation.
     
  9. insane man

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    Lebanese Health Minister Mohammed Khalifeh said the bombing killed at least 57 people, among them 37 children, many of whom had taken refuge in a three-story building. More than 27 bodies, including 17 children ages 9 months to 10 years, were taken to one government hospital in the nearby city of Tyre.

    lets kill some potential terrorists.

    post
     
  10. thacabbage

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    I'm not sure what this has to do with evil or wanting to destroy each other.

    I seriously find it offensive when Americans make light of the opression and human rights offenses carried out by the Israeli regime by dumbing it down to "both sides simply hating each other."
     
  11. thacabbage

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    Umm, Hezbollah wasn't launching rockets from this said "apartment building surrounded by civilians." Nice try though.
     
  12. insane man

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    by the way. i just read this was in qana village of tyre. israelis massacred over a hundred people in the 96 bombing in qana as well.

    but of course lets not think taht people might actually remember this and increase their absolutely justifiable hate for isreal.

    750 lebanese have been killed so far. good job condi. good job.
     
  13. Franchise2001

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    So everything that has happened thus far is 100% Israel's fault?
     
  14. thacabbage

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    Where did I say that?
     
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    you didnt, but this is a post-9/11 world we live in and you sir have a pre-9/11 mindset. there are no gray areas - you are either 100% with us or 100% against us.

    some see this in black and white
    others only gray
    were not beggin' for a fight
    no matter what they say

    we have a resolution that will
    put em all to shame
    its a different kind of deadline
    when im callin' the game

    i rock
    i rack em up
    and i roll
    im back
    and im a high-tech g.i. joe
    i got infrared
    i got g.p.s.
    i got that good old fashioned lead
    no price to high for freedom
    so be careful where you tread

    -clint black - iraq and roll
     
  17. jo mama

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    yeah, karmas a b****. all those innocent little kids had it coming.

    so far at least 500 lebaneese have been killed by the israeli government, while about 30 israeli soldiers and 20 civilians have died at the hands of not the lebanese government, but a seperate entity. but karma's a b****, aint it? all those lebanese really had it coming.
     
  18. thacabbage

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    Seriously, my blood is boiling over that last post by Meowgi. I'm not saying one side is free from blame in this overall conflict. But don't dismiss this as some triviality of people wanting to kill each other and "evil." I don't even care who's at fault. That's irrelevant. Hundreds of people are dying. Don't make light of this with that simplistic "karma" bullsh*t.
     
  19. FranchiseBlade

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    That is an idiotic stance. If we apply that logic to both sides then any Israeli civilians are fair targets? I can't believe anybody would justify civilian targets targets.
     
  20. FranchiseBlade

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    They didn't have to launch rockets. They shouldn't have launched rockets. I agree there are more effective ways for Hezbollah to handle it. You won't find any arguments from me there.
     

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