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Israel snubs Peace Candidate & Votes for More violence

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by glynch, Jan 28, 2003.

  1. MadMax

    MadMax Member

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    thanks for the quotes..i'll check it out...
     
  2. Cohen

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    Spew your biogtry somewhere else. If you accept that garbage without investigation, you either have ulterior motives or are an idiot.

    This is polemic crap from ages ago when Christian writings about Judaism weren't too nice either.


    Some nice analysis of similar crap: http://crnews.pastornet.net.au/jmm/aasi/aasi0151.htm

    His summary:
    Troy wrote:
    >Of course, all this is anti-semite propaganda.

    I recognise that Troy's intention here is ironic, but I would
    respectfully suggest that the collection of Talmud references,
    and the way they were presented, do indeed constitute
    anti-semitic propaganda. It is possible to present a collection
    of Scriptural references in the form of anti-Christian propaganda
    (some atheists do this constantly on the newsgroup), and that is
    precisely what has been done here in regard to Judaism. Both Troy
    and Greg have denied that the source of their information is
    anti-semitic 'factsheets' or web sites, so I can only conclude
    that they have this information from such sources indirectly. The
    list of talmud references is not the same as the one in the
    "Protocols of the elders of Zion" - a widely acknowledged forgery
    widely distributed by anti-semitic organisations in France,
    Germany and the USA in the early part of this century, but there
    are many similarities.
     
  3. Cohen

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    Interesting,

    The top search item for 'Sanhedrin 105a-b' brings up David Duke.

    You're in some classy company there, ILCC.
     
  4. Buck Turgidson

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    Max, after about 20 minutes of research on the net, 2 things have become clear:
    1. The only sites on the net advocating the interpretation of the Talmud that ILCC espouses are either white-supremacist or islamist in nature;
    2. There are several sites (try the ADL, Southern Poverty Law Center, hatewatch.org, etc...) with scholarly refutation of the points raised by ILCC.
     
  5. RocketMan Tex

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    I smell an inbred, trailer-trash troll. Do you?:D
     
  6. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

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    I'm pretty sure I wouldn't want to smell that. :D

    And yes, it stinks in here.
     
  7. NJRocket

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    Shocking...truly shocking. I guess my Daniel Carver referrence was spot on huh?
     
  8. MadMax

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    wow...i haven't had a chance to look at it, but i'd say it sounds less than reliable.
     
  9. bnb

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    How truly shocking that someone who references the "JEWISH owned media" and compares Judaism to Satanism relies on dubious sources.

    He shouts from the rooftop "I'm an idiot" and twenty quick replies answer that yes, indeed, he is.

    Mindless Troll acknowledged and kicked back to the gutter. No further replies required.
     
  10. glynch

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    Good work guys. I glad I don't even have to bother to do the research on that crap.
     
  11. F.D. Khan

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    Going back to the Original topic:

    I'm quite distraught about more years under the Likud party and the further deterioration to violence. I think that RocketmanTex is correct that if the Labor party could get some reasonable candidates then it would have a chance. I think its strange that with the Israeli economy in shambles, violence higher than ever and deaths on both sides mounting; Ariel Sharon is STILL voted into office.

    I think Mango is right that the Palestinian's should support the Labor party, but that might make it look negative to Israeli's because Palestinians cannot vote in any elections.


    In regards the the ILUVCLUTCHCITY, I feel that throughout history there have been those in Christianity, Judaism and Islam that have written horrible things about the others, and I agree that Islam is the only religion in the world that parrallel's the Christian tradition of Jesus Christ and the divine birth. Just as ignorant rhetoric of Al-Queda, KKK and Meir Kahane is evidence that the extremists of every group must be controlled.
     
  12. Mr. Clutch

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    What happened when there was a Labor party government? The Intifada, if I am not mistaken. Israel was right to choose a leader who will not hesitate to hunt down terrorists and kill them. Some of the strict actions will hurt innocent Palestinians, but the goal is to get rid of the terrorism.
     
  13. Cohen

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    What would have happened if Rabin had not been assassinated?
     
  14. Mango

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    F.D. Khan,

    There was a movement to get the various Palestinian factions to go into a quiet mode during the few months of the Israeli elections. Some groups were willing to agree to that, but a few didn't and the concept failed. Sharon was elected because the endless cycle of violence between Israelis and Palestinians <i>justifies</i> Likud & Sharon to the Israeli public.

    Eliminate the violence and that eliminates the <i>need</i> for Sharon.


    Palestinians see it as <i>Land for Peace</i>.

    Israelis see it as <i>Peace for Land</i>.

    The same words, but the sequence matters more than most people realize.
     
  15. Mr. Clutch

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    I don't think anything different would have happened. The Oslo agreements just gave Arafat more ability to build his terrorist infrastructure. Either way, Arafat the terrorist would still be there.
     
  16. glynch

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    Mango, every time things get sort of quiet, but especially if there are any peace negotiations , Sharon goes out and assassinates a couple of Hamas leaders. They then reply with a bombing or two that scares the Israelis into greater extremism. Sharon plays the Israeli public like a banjo.

    Sharon will do virtually anything to avoid obeying UN mandates and returning to the pre 1967 borders. So far his strategy has proven quite effective.
     
  17. Mr. Clutch

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    Sharon does not want any more Israelis to die, that is why he takes extreme measures in response to any terrorists attack. Implying that he wants Israelis to die so he can get re-elected is disgusting, but typical of the left- wingers' attitude towards people who disagree with them.

    And whenever a Hamas leader dies the world is made a better place.
     

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