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Israel regrets killing an Italian photographer

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by boy, Mar 15, 2002.

  1. rimbaud

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    glynch,

    Actually, my "borrowing" comes directly out of the Situationalist International movement, not the postmodern. They are fairly opposed, as the postmodern feeds the spectacle, against which the situationalists argue.

    In regards to the article, it sounds as if the students in question, throwing about their theories, have not been taught well, especially if they think Lacan is the most relevant to today. There has been a great deal of comparison between the security of late capitalism (with the fall of the USSR) and the rise of postmodernism...for a while it was a commodity that was spread very rapidly.

    There is a book titled Postmodern Apocalypse that brings together the more eschatalogical writings, such as Baudrillard's "gulf war never happened" and "the world ended with the nuclear bomb, we just don't know it yet" type of statements.

    The article mentions Eagleton, but fails to mention that he is a leading Marxist scholar, as is American Fredric Jameson and they are two of the most vocal opponents to the clichéd and commodified postmodernism. bell hooks has also examined the detrimental results of postmodernism when dealing with race and gender. She, too, is a cultural radical.

    As far as accessibility, especially whendealing with pst-structuralism, it is merely a rhetorical device - the idea being that if there is no true one understanding/reading of a text...no truth in general, then it should be written such that there either are multiple interpretations based upone each word, or that it is generally incomprehensible. Cute, isn't it?
     
  2. glynch

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    Rimbaud, thanks for the info.

    However, I'm still confused. Was your original post supposed to mean something? After wading through the jargon filled mess, I initially got the impression that you were saying why bother to debate or think about the topic.

    Alternatively, do you generally support, Eagleton, etc? or the Lacan etc. group? wrt to such political issues as Palestine?
     
  3. Ubiquitin

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    Ya know some of those Palestinians causes are justifiable... I mean you knock my house down in america(or atleast my neighborhood) your ass and your family's asses are gonna get shot up. So if someone bombs our Whitehouse we'll nuke them. So Palestine should get some revenge on Israel for sending missels to Arafat's headquarters
     
  4. Space Ghost

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    Who cares. Same story, different day.

    Ok, here is a news flash! People get killed, especially in warzones!!

    If I see a tank firing upon someone, Im not going to stand around like a dumbass recording the action.

    These people know the risk,so why act suprised when they get killed?
     
  5. rimbaud

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    No, I wasn't saying that. My post had two points - that this thread was tired , and, instead of just saying that, i did a "cut and paste in an inappropriate place" post. Additionally, however, in the nature of Burroughs's cut-ups, it word out in that the passage spoke to the commodification of the spectacle - which articles such as the original feed.

    Alternatively, do you generally support, Eagleton, etc? or the Lacan etc. group? wrt to such political issues as Palestine?

    I don't know if i reall support any camp, I use them all. Sure, I have favorites, and I think Eagleton and Jameson are two of the best writing and more important scholars for literary theory today. I am also for free, individual thought...the protection of individual liberty, and I am not really a capitalist. I thus feel that the po-capitalist brand of postmodern discourse is disruptive.

    So, yeah, I am on the radical side and have written a bit on the subject...to be published sometime.

    edit: in regards to political issus of the day...I don't see inactivity as a solution to anything, really.
     
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    Trying to live up to that "smartest poster" tag that some people have given you? Not working... :p
     
  7. rimbaud

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    That is not my writing, so it fails to elevate me. As far as the "smartest poster" label, I have continually disputed that.
     
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    Was just pulling your leg...
     
  9. rimbaud

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    Yeah, I know...just wanted to respond anyway in case others wanted to take you literally. :)
     

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