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Israel is a Democracy--for Jews

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by glynch, Jun 1, 2009.

  1. Ottomaton

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    Since the Siege of Jerusalem starting on 12/1/47 was the start of the war, yes it is. All of those dates qualify as after the start of the conflict.
     
  2. FranchiseBlade

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    Your claim was until the Arab league attacked the Jews in '48. And that wasn't accurate.

    We can have another debate about how both sides were fighting with each other around the time of the initial partition, but that wasn't your initial claim.
     
  3. eckostylez

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    Maybe then they would've have been promised some land for actual help, like Hussein bin Ali.

    T. E. Lawrence is probably rolling in his grave.
     
  4. pippendagimp

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    Who do you think bankrolled those projects?

    Who do you think bankrolled Marc Milecofsky's (aka Marc Ecko) rise from t-shirt peddler to frontman "entrepreneur"?
     
  5. Mathloom

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    None of this changes the fact that no one had a right to give Palestinian land to anyone else. Whether this was implicitly agreed between two parties is irrelevant.

    They even recognized the existence of a a land called Palestine with non-Jewish communities.

    If someone owned a slave, and slave ownership was the norm in society, and he sold that slave to you. You then gave permission to someone to rape that slave since the contract says that you own that right. Does that mean what you did is ok since you and the first owner implicitly decided to transfer ownership and rights? Is anything valid in this whole thing?

    You lose your option to whine and b**** when you go to war and get your ass kicked, that's absolutely right. But not when you are forced into war. Accepting a partition plan for something which is WHOLLY yours is not an acceptable solution.

    It is not acceptable to any human, government, state, nation, community or animal on earth. When you get buy a car on a payment plan, the bank does not come and tell you that you have to share it with someone.

    Just because they implicitly agreed something doesn't mean it wasn't universally understood that, implicitly, they didn't have the right to displace the entire population of that place, ruin their lives, give their land away and provide weapons to aid in doing so.
     
  6. eckostylez

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    The British and Arab guerrillas and the commoners who supported them.
    Great deflection. Should I make some reference about Scottie Pippen now? Or is rhetoric amusing enough for you?
     
  7. StupidMoniker

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    Since there are members of the Knesset that are not Jews, and they are presumably elected by non-Jews, I think the thread title is completely inaccurate. Israel has been defined as a Jewish state for as long as I can remember. It is a democracy where non-Jews are allowed to vote. Therefor it is both a Jewish state and a democracy.
     
  8. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    I think Israel should get rid off all settlements in exchange for the other side giving up right of return.

    Then it's even.
     

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