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Israel Goes To War with Hamas 2023

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by astros123, Oct 6, 2023.

  1. ROXRAN

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  2. lionaire

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    Nice try hasbara propagandist. If those people are Hamas why arent they shooting at them then? It's because the people in the footage are the isis members that the zionist regime has been funding and collaborating with.

     
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    Of course they're trying to smear the whistleblower. Unfortunately for genocide deniers like yourself, his testimony lines up exactly with what soldiers of the zionist occupation army have been saying as well.

     
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    Trump says this, but then will continue to give Israel all the money, weapons, and support he can spare

    99% of republicans, and a decent number of Dems are on board as well

     
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    I'm not sure what drives some people to buy into denialism in the face of overwhelming evidence, basic logic, and critical thinking. I suspect it's driven at a deeper level by either a need to maintain a prior viewpoint or, something worse, hate for a particular class of people. It's not so different from holocaust deniers.
     
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    The behavior you're describing is most commonly observed in the older crowd. Undoing the decades of pro-zionist propaganda they've been exposed to all their lives will take time but there's no doubt that the tide is turning.
     
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    Also a lot of is spawned from deeply-rooted islamophobia. These types are easy to spot because they'll conflate actual terrorist groups such as al-qaeda, taliban, isis (creations of the west) to resistance groups like hamas and hezbollah. To them, brown man wielding arms = terrorist.
     
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    I don't let Trump off the hook at all for this. It is as much his famine as Netanyahu's. He collaborated with this UN-condemned alternate food aid distribution scheme. The idea was to keep Palestinians on the very brink of starvation, and now that the IDF pushed things a little over the edge, Trump needs plausible deniability so the PR doesn't blow back on him. But he doesn't want them fed; he wants them emaciated with hunger with just enough trickling in keep them barely alive. It's just that his partner didn't get the titration right.
     
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    Long term, it's a beautiful piece of real estate and $ flowing from the sky. Beautiful, modern, civil. The green light was given and Netanyahu went full speed. But, it's beautiful.
     
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    Amen, he was gung-ho to turn gaza into a resort and now he cares about the Children.............whats changed is the optics and that's all he cares about, he doesn't give 2 ***** to anyone but himself
     
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    Let’s not forget your so-called resistant group Hamas specifically stated Palestinian civilian deaths are necessary
     
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    Numerous sources, including human rights organizations and news reports, document incidents of Hamas killing Palestinian civilians in Gaza
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    Examples of such incidents include:
    • 2014 Gaza/Israel conflict: Amnesty International reported that Hamas forces carried out a campaign of abductions, torture, and unlawful killings against Palestinians accused of "collaborating" with Israel and others, executing at least 23 people and arresting and torturing dozens more.
    • Targeting of individuals seeking aid: Recent reports indicate that Hamas has been involved in killing Palestinian civilians attempting to access humanitarian aid, particularly at sites operated by the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation (GHF). Some reports suggest Hamas has threatened to kill Palestinians who cooperate with the Israeli military, according to PBS.
    • Use of human shields: Critics of Hamas, including the Anti-Defamation League (ADL), accuse the organization of deliberately operating within densely populated civilian areas and advising civilians to ignore Israeli evacuation warnings, thereby putting them in harm's way and increasing the likelihood of civilian casualties during Israeli military operations.
    • Misfired rockets: There have been instances where Hamas's rockets, aimed at Israel, have misfired and landed within Gaza, killing Palestinian civilians.
    All the above is verified. Hamas don’t care about Palestinian civilians, they are what might make Israel look bad. If they could go back to October 7 and focused less on civilians, they wouldn’t do it even if it meant sparing Palestinian civilian lives as a consequence. Palestinian civilians is simply a convenient host that accepted it is at Hamas mercy Which certainly includes the option of death
     

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