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Israel Goes To War with Hamas 2023

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by astros123, Oct 6, 2023.

  1. basso

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    might want to cut back on the bourbon, just for a bit.
     
  2. Buck Turgidson

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    That's been a while...you should talk to your MAGA buddy Roxroan
     
  3. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    That isn't a new vacuum, that is you choosing to ignore terrorism and deny a people a right to self-defense. It makes no difference who is more relatively wealthy or militarily capabale. If you can't ethically fight another country, don't fight them. Israel doesn't have to allow their people to be killed by terrorists because the "Palestinians" are not as wealthy or militarily capable. I don't have to let a 5'1" 110 lb. guy punch me without reprisal. I can beat him senseless if he tries to hit me. It is on him to recognize that he doesn't have the real capability to win a fight and, as a result, not start a fight in the first place. Hamas chose to start a fight they could not win. Israel is well within their rights to continue the fight until Hamas surrenders or is destroyed. Don't poke the bear. Don't tug on Superman's cape. Whatever cliche you want to apply. Hamas bit off more than they could chew, and because they are feckless cowards, the people in Gaza are paying the price. I wish they would all operate out of designated military bases and fight their enemies according to the customary laws of war. They do not. As such, they are fair game wherever they are to be found, and if there are innocent people in the vicinity, then that is the choices that were made by Hamas and those innocent people.

    Recently, Israel offered to let all non-hosties to go into a safe zone, subject to search for weapons. It seems that no one chose to do so. What does that tell you about the "innocent Palestinians"?
     
  4. ThatBoyNick

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    It can be boiled down to this point, if a child is hitting me I would have the green light in your eyes to strangle that child. Okie dokie.

    If hamas has the capability to paraglide and kill 1500, Israel has the green light to kill a million of them. Okie dokie

    Gonna disagree
     
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  5. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    Clearly, yes. If someone attacks you, you are allowed to defend yourself, even if they are weaker than you.
     
  6. ThatBoyNick

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    No. Clearly no dude, I don't have the right to strangle a child hitting me.

    Self defense is extremely different from going into an offensive rage out of anger and revenge.

    If a child is hitting me I have the right to restrain that child, not to snap its neck. Legally this is called excessive force, and socially it's called being a monster. Dear lord help me, why do I have to type this out.
     

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