See this is why i hate libs. You can't support the Palestinian cause without supporting their right to resist. You recognize the oppression and injustice they face, but don't recognize their right to bear arms and fight against their oppressors. Western libs are the truly the worst.
What the **** has armed resistance gotten the Palestinians? Armed resistance is why they're in the shitty situation they find themselves in today. Armed resistance is why Palestinians lost the 1948 war when they had a feasible 2 state solution on the table. Armed resistance is why they lost the 6 day war. Armed resistance is why they lost the yon kapur war. Armed resistance is why the Palestinians rejected the camp David's offer. Armed resistance is why they rejected a 2 state solution in 2007. Its you braindead morons who live in the comfort of the west telling Palestinians why should resist while your dumbass lives in the comfort of safety. Take your ass to gaza and pick up a gun and join the resistance. The Palestinians should take whatever offer they can get from the israelis and form their own state. The longer time goes by the worst the offers will get
Troubling. Israel plans to occupy and flatten all of Gaza if no deal by Trump's trip Barak Ravid The ruins of Beit Lahia in the northern Gaza Strip. Photo: Bashar Taleb/AFP via Getty https://www.axios.com/2025/05/05/israel-gaza-destroy-trump-deal Israel has set President Trump's visit to the Middle East next week as a deadline for a new hostage and ceasefire deal, with a massive ground operation to commence if no deal is reached, Israeli officials say. Why it matters: Israel's Security Cabinet approved a plan Sunday night to gradually reoccupy all of Gaza and hold it indefinitely if no deal is reached by May 15. Plans for the operation call for the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) to flatten any buildings that remain standing and displace virtually the entire population of 2 million people to a single "humanitarian area." The alternative to remaining in the humanitarian zone is for Palestinians to leave the enclave "voluntarily" for other countries "in line with President Trump's vision for Gaza," an Israeli official said. Such departures could hardly be considered voluntary, and no country has agreed thus far to accept displaced Palestinians. Israeli officials claim there are ongoing negotiations with several countries on that front. Between the lines: Many Israeli officials see this operation as a nuclear option and would much prefer a deal in the next two weeks. Trump is not currently playing an active role in efforts to reach a ceasefire and has effectively given Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu a green light to do as he sees fit, Israeli officials say. The big picture: The return to full-fledged war would come after Israel already cut off all supplies of food, water and medicine for civilians in Gaza after the ceasefire broke down two months ago.
Muslims overwhelming voted for this. We even had our resident MAGA Muslim @Exiled claim Trump would "liberate" the Palestinians and stand up to Trump. Now the braindead troll doesn't even pop in to talk about it
"Feasible two-state solution" where the Arabs who made up 75% of the population at the time only get 20% of the land. You're deflecting the blame to the side of the victims instead of focusing on the root cause of this entire issue, where the zionists have invaded a land and are ethnically cleansing it's population for over 80 years now as drawn up by ben gurion. Like imagine telling the Jews who carried out the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising against the Nazi's that "armed resistance is the reason for the holocaust!!!" lmao you liberals make me sick
What the **** are you talking about. The 1948 UN plan for Palestinian gave them alot more than 20% of the land. The plan gave them 48% of the territory and gave them strategic port access on the west coast. They should've taken the deal instead of going to war with Israel which they got their ass whopped. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Partition_Plan_for_Palestine#:~:text=The Arab state was to,adjoining area—would become an Again what the **** has armed resistance gotten the Palestinians over the past decade. It's gotten them NOTHING. You're a dipshit activist who lives in the comfort of the west. Take your dumbass to Gaza and volunteer for Hamas. Stop telling others they need to suffer in the name of "armed resistance."
I misquoted the figure my apologies. Despite that, it's still a largely unfair deal and no one in their right mind would've accepted it. You pretend as if all would by fine and well if that deal went through. The zionist expansion project would've continued and just like we see in the West Bank today, they would've continued to build settlements on Palestinian land and carry out pogroms to get rid of the rightful residents. There's no point in arguing this with you because you are in the belief that without the actions of Hamas or any resistance group, the Palestinians would currently be living dignified lives with the right to self-determination. That gap in your understanding leads you to have the backwards views on this issue that you currently do.
Are we just going to pretend that Palestinians didn't support the Nazis during WW2? Are we going to rewrite history and pretend the grand mufti in Jerusalem who was the leader of Muslim Palestinians didn't support Hitler? Are we going to pretend that arab leaders didn't meet with Hitler during the war and support him during the war? Are we going pretend the Muslims weren't on the wrong side of history during WW1? Armed resistance has gotten the Palestinians NOTHING over the past 70 years except for more and more suffering. Braindead trolls like yourself gas lighting the Palestinians into thinking that somehow armed resistance is going to liberate Palestine are the absolute worst people in the world. Again take your ass to Gaza and volunteer for Hamas. Don't sit in the comfort and safety of the west cosplaying as some activist.
Palestinians fought alongside the allies idiot. Palestinians took in Jewish refugees from the holocaust clown. The Grand Mufti is a puppet figure put in place by the British. You are repeating the same holocaust revisionism that netanyahu himself uses good ****ing grief
German radio broadcasting was very popular in the west bank. You should actually read a book about WW2. The botton line is armed resistance has never worked for Palestinians. It's failed for 70+ years and you're still claiming its the route to go for Palestinians. You have no end game or feasible goal in mind. You activists are partially responsible for Trump winning. The israelis were very clear what would happen if Trump won. Bibi publicly said they wouldn't annex Gaza bcz of pressure from the Americans
You mean like the almost 2 million Arab citizens of Israel? These are literally the same people, going on four generations of living peacefully and contributing to Israeli society, gaining more power and self-determination over several decades, in government knesset, civil positions, quite a few in the idf, building mosques (over 400 now in Israel) Unfortunately, their cousins refuse to reject terror & jihad and spent billions upon billions turning their land into the world's largest terrorist base.
Nailed it. It's not that complicated. There's over 300 million muslims in the ME It was invented in the 7th century AD by a small group of people and spread via invasion, violence and colonization No one takes you seriously when you only pretend white people colonize This is a country of less than 10 million people, 2 million of whom are Arabs Created based on precedence before Islam was invented So yeah, history doesn't go back to Oct 7, it goes back 2.5 millenia You have no argument
No. Nor does history begin in 1948. Nor is it limited to the borders of Israel. And yes, on October 6th the people in Gaza were living in relative peace. Do you think the average Gazan is better off now or October 6th 2023? What good has Hamas accomplished for them? What was the benefit of the October 7th attack?
Israeli Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich vowed to destroy Gaza and force its Palestinian population to leave, raising fears of ethnic cleansing. The statement, made during a conference on Jewish settlement in the West Bank, came after Israel’s security cabinet approved a plan for Operation Gideon’s Chariots, which aims to conquer the Gaza Strip. The international community, including the UK and the UN, has condemned the plan, calling it unacceptable and potentially unlawful.
You mean the Palestinians living in occupied Palestine where there's over 70 laws that discriminate against them including the recently implemented nation state law? pls tell me more
So you describe a full-on military occupation of land, air and sea as relative peace? You're off the rocker old man. Many of us who have been following this issue for years have been assessing this as a genocide and ethnic cleansing even before 10/7. What's changed now is that entire world is aware of the depravity of the zionist entity as they've carried out this livestreamed genocide as well as America's unconditional backing of this nazi-like state. They've isolated themselves from the rest of the world and bringing down my country with them. The boycott movement against the occupiers is larger than ever. There's international court cases open against the zionist state and its leaders and while it may take years for any justice to be served, it's clear as day than the fall of israel and zionist state is underway. Leading up to operation Al-Aqsa flood, the cause of the Palestinians was on the back burner and the zionist state was on track to officially normalize relations with Saudi which has since then put on pause by the Sauds under the condition they recognize Palestinian statehood.
The establishment of this occupying state has nothing to do with religion. The founder of zionism Theodore Herzl himself was an atheist and a large amount of the followers of his movement were secular. You're telling me a person who doesn't believe in God or the Bible thought the Jews were God's chosen people and this was their chosen land? They were originally considered Argentina as a place to colonize. Did they have claim to that land as well?
Yes, and you also believe Hamas are the heroes of the story. That's because you are a pack of idiots. Yes, all the states that are virtue signaling "progressives" (and of course the Muslims) are very symbolically supportive of the "Palestinians". Very few of them does anything to actually support them besides send them some money though. Only Iran, Hezbollah, and the Houthis really do anything to support their moronic cause. Look at the support Ukraine has received in comparison to Gaza. How many Leopard tanks has Germany sent to Gaza to fight the Israelis? How many Javelin missiles from the US? How many ... well here is the list for Ukraine, which one has been matched in Gaza: List of military aid to Ukraine during the Russo-Ukrainian War - Wikipedia
Just curious, do you believe that all Palestinians are Hamas, and that it's fine for Israel to say they will keep bombing and killing Palestinians until Gaza is "entirely destroyed" and the Palestinians still alive are forced out into other countries?