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Israel Goes To War with Hamas 2023

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  1. AroundTheWorld

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    Like Kelly Iko.
     
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    LOL iran which has a 360 billion dollar gdp was totally reliant on biden. You people are so ****ing dumb
     
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    Anyone who doesn't spin braindead conspiracies = bad
     
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    Attacking nuclear sites in Tel Aviv and Naqap could be the poison pill option
     
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    This simply isn't true. Israel has killed 10's of thousands of Palestinians civilians, including women and children.
     
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    If Israel request money will we give them money? And will the conservatives also btch about sending money?

    I'm quite sure I can predict that the conservatives reactions to sending aid to israel will b quite different compared to Ukraine
     
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    Great job MBS and Saudi Arabia here - go buy some more soccer players
     
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    The numbers are larger than those below because these have been validated. Lots of seed for generation of hates.

    Palestinian Civilian killed: 3803 (1093 children)
    Israeli Civilian killed: 177

    https://www.ochaopt.org/data/casualties

    What is the source of the data?

    Information about occupation and conflict-related casualties is regularly collected by OCHA field staff and entered into OCHA’s Protection of Civilians database, following review and verification. As a rule, for an incident to be entered into the database it needs to be validated by at least two independent and reliable sources. Exceptions to this rule include incidents resulting in Israeli injuries, where information is typically based on media reports.
     
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    Lol, extremely creative accounting, aka propaganda. Republicans politicizing a tragedy this soon isn't a surprise.
     
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    Honestly, you answered your own question. Win or lose, a zero sum war with Israel is the mission.
     
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    "The truth is that there is an obvious, undeniable, and hugely consequential moral difference between Israel and her enemies. The Israelis are surrounded by people who have explicitly genocidal intentions towards them. The charter of Hamas is explicitly genocidal. It looks forward to a time, based on Koranic prophesy, when the earth itself will cry out for Jewish blood, where the trees and the stones will say “O Muslim, there’s a Jew hiding behind me. Come and kill him.” This is a political document. We are talking about a government that was voted into power by a majority of Palestinians.

    The discourse in the Muslim world about Jews is utterly shocking. Not only is there widespread Holocaust denial—there’s Holocaust denial that then asserts that we will do it for real if given the chance. The only thing more obnoxious than denying the Holocaust is to say that it should have happened; it didn’t happen, but if we get the chance, we will accomplish it. There are children’s shows in the Palestinian territories and elsewhere that teach five-year-olds about the glories of martyrdom and about the necessity of killing Jews.

    And this gets to the heart of the moral difference between Israel and her enemies. And this is something I discussed in The End of Faith. To see this moral difference, you have to ask what each side would do if they had the power to do it.

    What would the Jews do to the Palestinians if they could do anything they wanted? Well, we know the answer to that question, because they can do more or less anything they want. The Israeli army could kill everyone in Gaza tomorrow. So what does that mean? Well, it means that, when they drop a bomb on a beach and kill four Palestinian children, as happened last week, this is almost certainly an accident. They’re not targeting children. They could target as many children as they want. Every time a Palestinian child dies, Israel edges ever closer to becoming an international pariah. So the Israelis take great pains not to kill children and other noncombatants.

    What do we know of the Palestinians? What would the Palestinians do to the Jews in Israel if the power imbalance were reversed? Well, they have told us what they would do. For some reason, Israel’s critics just don’t want to believe the worst about a group like Hamas, even when it declares the worst of itself. We’ve already had a Holocaust and several other genocides in the 20th century. People are capable of committing genocide. When they tell us they intend to commit genocide, we should listen.

    There is every reason to believe that the Palestinians would kill all the Jews in Israel if they could. Would every Palestinian support genocide? Of course not. But vast numbers of them—and of Muslims throughout the world—would. Needless to say, the Palestinians in general, not just Hamas, have a history of targeting innocent noncombatants in the most shocking ways possible. They’ve blown themselves up on buses and in restaurants. They’ve massacred teenagers. They’ve murdered Olympic athletes. They now shoot rockets indiscriminately into civilian areas. And again, the charter of their government in Gaza explicitly tells us that they want to annihilate the Jews—not just in Israel but everywhere."

    -Sam Harris
     
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    If people want their answer of "why does Hamas exist"

    Just imagine the chain reaction and cascading effects of those 3000+ families and how easier that web of people can be radicalized.
     
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    This is going to get a whole lot uglier.



    Apparently Hamas live-streamed a bunch of their mass murders earlier (graphic photo):

    Technology - bringing the world together, one brutal murder at a time.
    IMG_20231007_184353_452.jpg
     
    #216 Ottomaton, Oct 7, 2023
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    This is all unfortunately true; I have heard it from the horse's mouth (Muslims) many times in direct conversations. Even people who at first seemed friendly and reasonable said it to me - when they heard I'm from Germany, they basically said some **** like "we are on the same side against the Jews, and we (Muslims) will finish the job". It's disgusting.

    And they don't even hide it. There are people on this forum actively cheering on murder and rape of civilians, women, children, elderly, because hatred against Jews is what they were indoctrinated with growing up.

    It's repulsive and sad.
     
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    Unfortunately, you need to view this one in Telegram, but its just some Israeli dude, driving, looking at all the people's bodies where they were shot and left on the side of the road and swearing a bunch in Hebrew Definitely graphic.
     
  19. fchowd0311

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    I really want you to point me to people cheering for the murder of civilians and children.
     
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    You seriously need to chill with the racism and xenophobia.
     
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