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Israel Goes To War with Hamas 2023

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by astros123, Oct 6, 2023.

  1. astros123

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    What's so difficult about holding your view until you know all the facts? When you're a elected member of congress you have a responsibility to say the truth and facts. Representatives are not twitter influences.

    You can't hate on the right for spinning election conspiracies then say nothing when your members spin disinformation.

    Lies are lies regardless on the side you're on
     
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    I haven’t read what she said regarding the hospital or Biden, but if that’s what she said and did, it’s not pro-Hamas. It’s a fact that we’re not 100% sure how the hospital was hit. Being anti-Biden isn’t the same as being pro-Hamas, and being anti-Israel doesn’t necessarily mean someone is pro-Hamas.
     
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    You're just just as bad as MAGA if you don't think spewing disinformation is utterly wrong

    Lies are lies
     
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    Coming here to post that.
    Some rare good news. It's faint hope but hope that maybe this wont end up as bad as a lot of us think it will.
     
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    Holding one's views until Israel forms a narrative to sell to US intelligence isn't the same as waiting for the facts. Waiting for the facts is allowing a completely neutral independent party to actually be on the ground investigating the site. I wonder if Israel or Hamas is preventing that?
     
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    Yes, there has been from the US.

    https://www.reuters.com/world/middl...n-reasons-response-qatari-efforts-2023-10-20/

     
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    Why not wait a day until you have all the facts? Why do members of congress feel that they need to have a hot take?

    What's so hard about STFU until all facts are known?
     
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    "Israel forms a narrative" lol Israel didn't need to form a narrative. Anyone with half a brain can look at the impact zone and make a determination.

    The blind anti Israel bias is ridiculous on the left. IDF are known war criminals but so are hamas. Let's wait for facts before we spew judgment
     
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    Has Hamas ever sold us fake intelligence of WMDs to start an invasion that costs the lives of hundreds of thousands of civilians?

    Joe Biden has. Why do we at face value just buy into the credibility of men who deserve none of it?
     
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    Oh you are definitely an expert in ordinance drops. How many war zones have you been in?

    Israel has the authority here to allow third party independent investigation. They aren't allowing it.
     
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    Joe biden did received fake Intel from the Bush administration who purposely fabricated the intel. Bush folks literally created a fake working group in the DOD at the time with its sole mission to fabricate evidence.

    Blaming biden for Bush corruption shows you have brain rot just lik3 MAGA
     
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    You care more about the honor of Joe Biden than Palestian lives and dignity. I really coindt give a dick about your opinions about me and MAGA. You are a cult of personality worshiper of Joe Biden.

    The way I am with Jalen Green you are with Joe Biden. It's sad.
     
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    So Biden is either incompetent at distinguishing intelligence information as credible or not or he doesn't care about the protect of stetting a invasion. Chose one.
     
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    My views have been the same since day 1. I've said a million times on these forums that the biggest threat facing man kind is disinformation and how it'll rip apart society. You can't rip MAGA for their lies then be pro omar disinformation

    Get your head out your ass. If you think it's right for a member of congress to spin pro hamas talking points before any facts are known. then you're an idiot
     
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    lol
     
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    Lol. Ive never seen you more outraged in anything in life than someone having milquetoast criticism towards Biden. You are at fanboy levels for Biden.
     
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    Anyone with half a brain can watch the video below and make a determination.

    If someone threatens to kill you on Saturday, Sunday and Monday, and if you get killed on Tuesday, you don't have to be a genius to tell who killed you.

     
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    Yeah its totally bidens fault that the pentagon fabricated evidence lol. If bidens pentagon was fabricating evidence right now I'll be first to bash him. Blaming biden for Bush is so lame
     
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