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Islamophobia in Pictures

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Sweet Lou 4 2, Nov 22, 2015.

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  1. Sweet Lou 4 2

    Sweet Lou 4 2 Member

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    You can keep making things up if it makes your delusions feel better.

    But you still haven't answered a simple question - do you think there is such a thing as Islamophobia - that is, the hatred of Muslims?
     
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    You still don't get the point. I made a post in your thread that showed actual fear of muslims. ie islamaphobia in pictures. Your briefly mentioned it but didn't have anything to say agreeing or disagreeing and are now just calling me a racist. What is my motivation to engage in a discussion with you that has nothing to do with my initial post. So you can dodge whatever answer I give and call me a racist? Do you have anything to say about the initial post? Still dodging that? Do you want to ask me some random fact about the picture and see if I know? Then you can drop the point entirely and ask if I believe in GUT.
     
  4. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Your initial post denied that Islamophobia existed and you proceeded to twist its meaning to that of something else completely unrelated to the topic of discussion.

    I am asking you a simple question - which you refuse to answer. It is very very telling.
     
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    I was chatting with this ultra liberal white girl online about Islam and within 5 minutes she started to call me a bigot and a islamophobe for criticizing islam. She said I don't know anything about islam and shouldn't speak about it. Now here's what she didn't know about me, I'm exmuslim born in a islamic country. I know a lot more about that religion then she does but I was still called a bigot and islamophobe . When I reveal to her this and she called me self hater and blocked me. That day I realize the word islamophobe is b.s.
     
  6. DraftBoy10

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    I'll answer your dumb question. Previously? No. I think honestly blacks are hated more than Muslims, but as history shows us the most discriminated has been Jews. But as of November 23rd, 5:41 PM EST, I think Muslims are the most hated, out of fear, people in the world.

    And they've done everything in their way to create that.

    Does that answer your question?

    If you're asking a different question, be specific. I'll answer them, accuse me of bigotry or whatever, I'll be a real honest conservative with you.
     
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    Sorry that it's off-topic, but I can't help but laugh at the argument "see...Christians did it too. Look at this example from almost 1000 years ago".

    I like to think that we've made progress as a people since then. It seems that ISIS has not made the same progress, and they're dragging their religion down with them. This is a group of people trying to launch their own modern-day Crusade, and we have people trying to justify it (including the president) with an something from the year 1100.
     
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    FBI HATE CRIME STATS 2014

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    I wonder what group hates the Jews? Isn't there a group of people trying to wipe them from the face of the earth?

    Anyways, this country definitely does not have an anti-Islam problem.
     
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    I am only dispelling the idea that Christianity is pure and good across the world. ISIS is a cult of Islam - it's not representative of the entire culture. You are grouping people together.

    That was it, I was just wondering if certain people agree it exists because seems many think this thread is pointless. As for "they've done everything in their way to create that" - I'm curious who you define as them? 1 billion Muslims?


    I have no idea what your conversation with this person was. There are certainly intolerant liberals. But to say that islamophobia doesn't exist because of one conversation with one girl is very strange.

    What is your criticism of Islam the religion itself? I'm not talking about the culture there and many of the practices that are indeed backwards. I am asking what is Islam any more worse than a religion like Christianity - which also had a violent history? I'm neither, I personally abhor religion in all manifestations but I respect people's belief system and feel they should not be discriminated against for it.

    I also think that Islam needs reformation, but I think it's at a cultural level rather than worrying about the Quran as a book of violence.
     
  10. Rocket River

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    How about the west, the Jews and the Asians get the f*** out of Africa and the Middle east and mine their own resources,get their own oil, diamonds, etc in their own countries?

    Rocket River
     
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    Radicals.
     
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    So you see every Muslim - including Hakeem Olajuwon, as a radical?
     
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    Not me, the general public I'm referring to. I think right now, the general consensus is to view any and all muslims as radical until proven otherwise.

    I don't see anything wrong with thinking that. Better safe, than sorry.

    But I don't think every muslim is a radical, I just think every radical is a muslim.
     
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    Lol.

    Christianity underwent a reformation to lead it out of the dark ages. After that, the 20th century had all kinds of movements from feminism to pro gay to pro granny that has resulted in every developed nation being secular to a fault.

    Islam has been unable to come out of the dark ages. They cannot integrate with 2015. Apologists like yourself keep proving this when you cite examples from a few millenia ago.

    We've got the internet now. Cars. Planes. Drones. Bill Cosby would be just another guy if he lived in Pakistan or was a UAE royal, but here he's rightfully demonized.

    If muslims want to live in a civilized world, they have to understand what progress really is. And that means looking at the big picture , instead of playing the victim because their brothers and sisters are taking to the streets and wishing death against well adjusted people. Push for reform with all your life, bring a culture of intolerance and oppression out of the dark ages.
     
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    This hurts Africa and the ME far more than the West. Essentially, you're implying they can't integrate with civilization and free trade. Whatever major income streams they do have end up being corrupted.

    Both were doing horrible long before imperialism , and their own rulers are the ones who sold them out time and time again. The tie for blaming the big bad white man left a long time ago - it's time to look within.
     
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    I suppose I'm less concerned with a terrorist attack given that I've never actually seen or met a terrorist once in my life. I'm fortunate but statistically you're much more likely to die from smoking or poor diet/exercise habit than you are from a terrorist. You're more likely to get murdered by an American citizen in the U.S. than a terrorist. We have a population of 7 billion strong and growing and there are more cases of death from other causes than with terrorism yet that's what brings headlines.

    I love bacon but as comedic as it sounds eating that non-stop is more likely to kill me than a terrorist. I mean chances are you're the sole reason for shortening your lifespan. It's much less likely someone else is. I really think if more people focused on themselves and less on others, you'd be happier and you wouldn't be apart of the ****storm stirred up by the media.
     
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    1) How do you know that?
    2) Once you would know for sure, chances are it's too late
    3) Just because you think you haven't met one, nobody else should be concerned?

    Those are choices you make. Intolerant people and terrorists make choices for you. Choices you might not survive.

    You can be both.

    I challenge you to say that to the face of a relative of a victim of 9/11, of the Paris attacks, or any other acts of terror. Your nonchalant attitude is insulting to them.

    Again, tell that to the relatives of victims of terror. Also, being concerned about intolerance and terror does not mean one is not focusing on oneself. It means one is concerned about the safety and well-being of yourself and those you love. And about the freedoms intolerant Islamists want to take away from us. Following your advice to just ignore that until you feel that it gets closer to you (and chances are, it already is close to you), you might only wake up when it is too late.
     
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    Death in any form is sad. A person dying from a terrorist attack is sad but so is losing a loved one who had a respectable death around loved ones in a hospital. Do you dispute that?

    Death happens. It happens all the time in all forms. I'd rather not throw billions of dollars trying to fix a problem that can't be fixed and then lump an entire religious sect as a potential evil when it's more like thousands of assholes are ruining the reputation of a growing population a billion strong.

    Terrorists in the Islamic community make up a tiny fraction of the total population yet you want to lump all of them as a threat.

    I'd rather billions spent overseas to kill a threat that as you said is essentially invisible (unless their Muslim right?) put in our own infrastructure. We got a homelessness population in the U.S that's larger ISIS combined forces and where's the love for them when they die? Is their suffering less tragic than those in Paris or 9/11 AroundtheWorld?
     
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    I'd also like to say you taking up your pitchfork on a basketball forum is the equivalent of doing nothing at all. If you want to fight your cause, go serve or be apart of a community that shares your sentiment.
     
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    This is simply a completely wrong assessment. When you look at approval rates for ISIS and Al Qaeda, and at approval rates for death threats against cartoonists, and at approval rates for stonings of "apostates" and "adultering women", then you must at some point come to the realization that it's not just thousands of assholes ruining the reputation of a billion people, but that hundreds of millions out of that billion people actually agree with lots and lots of what the thousands of assholes are doing, and that hundreds of millions support it tacitly or expressly, or even with money, while constantly placing the blame elsewhere (Mossad, Israel, USA).

    See above. You clearly have not spent much time researching the issue and just want to appear as a - very uninformed - white knight.

    These are two different issues, which both deserve being addressed. And yes, their suffering, while regrettable, is less tragic than someone being brutally murdered out of the blue.

    How do you know what I do or don't do? Also, since you keep repeating it, it's "a part" in that case.
     

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