Islamist terror to start the new year in Egypt, Nigeria

You seriously think bigtexxx has ever read a lick on Saladin?

 

Sigh. You cannot be serious.

1. The US attacked Afghanistan because they were harboring terrorists. Not sure if you noticed, but they were harboring the same group of terrorists who attacked us on 9/11.
2. After 14 UN resolutions and Saddam Hussein could still not account for his WMD, despite having a history of using them in the past, the US attacked Iraq and ultimately executed Saddam on the gallows.
3. Christianity is the official religion of the US? That would be news to me.

 

lol -- I've actually toured his Citadel mosque in Cairo. With a private Muslim guide.

 

you are in the vast minority of your side of the aisle.

 

Like Googrux, I think that's a small minority of conservatives who think like you on this matter.

While the US doesn't "officially" have a state religion, too often I hear rhetoric from the GOP and conservative Democrats, within churches, and on Fox News about America being a "Judeo Christian nation", and that this was intended by the Founding Fathers.

Some excerpts of historical documents below are proof of America's neutral stance:

From the Treaty of Tripoli (1797)
"As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Muslims; and, as the said States never have entered into any war, or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties, that no pretext arising from religious opinions, shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries."

John Tyler (10th POTUS)
"The United States have adventured upon a great and noble experiment, which is believed to have been hazarded in the absence of all previous precedent -- that of total separation of Church and State. No religious establishment by law exists among us. The conscience is left free from all restraint and each is permitted to worship his Maker after his own judgment. The offices of the Government are open alike to all. No tithes are levied to support an established Hierarchy, nor is the fallible judgment of man set up as the sure and infallible creed of faith. The Mohammedan, if he will to come among us would have the privilege guaranteed to him by the constitution to worship according to the Koran; and the East Indian might erect a shrine to Brahma, if it so pleased him. Such is the spirit of toleration inculcated by our political Institutions."

 

Not sure if posted, but RE: Egypt terrorism:

http://www.truth-out.org/thousands-...s-defend-coptic-christians-from-terorism66684

A nice gesture, I think we can agree.

 

Egypt is more modern than Pakistan, hence more moderate Muslims. Of course, this all goes back to my theory that Islam tends to violence more because it's still in an unevolved state in many places. In others (Egypt, United States, etc.), most of the followers have evolved the religion into something more peaceful and understanding. Time will let the religious evolution spread, IMO.

But we've hashed this before and it's unnecessary to do so again.

 

Yikes. I was recently in Cairo and found it to be decades (if not more) behind the rest of civilization. Pakistan must really be a swell place.

 

I've been to both in the past 3 years.

Egypt is far more developed than Pakistan.

For example, international tourist destinations such as Sharm el Sheikh (no matter how trashy it may be) simply do not exist in Pakistan.

Then again, Syria is far more developed than Egypt.

 

Try Abu Simbel airport.

In July.

Holy hell, it's hot there (no pun).

 

You mean the WMD the US gave them right? It doesn't matter. The Entire world was against the Invasion, but the US still thought it was needed. Furthermore the reason for invasion also changed many times.

This also does not matter, your points have not debuted my point that the US has been the only country invading other countries in the last decade. So if any country tries to force their way of life on others it has been the US.

I never said that Christianity was the official religion of the US. I only said that many Christians want to impose their will on others (for example http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-abortion_violence). And there are many other examples (shops not being open on Sunday in the Netherlands).

That being said you claimed Egypt was backwards because it still sort of worshipped a person who died many years ago in Saladin. I just showed that many people in the US still worship the Founding fathers, so using your logic the US is also still backwards. Since you didn't respond to this point I can assume that you know how absurd that logic was?

 

wow..is that right? i've never been to the Netherlands, but I'm surprised. is this about religion or the power of organized labor to make sure they have a day off?

 

It is changing. Now in most cities you have like 1 shopping sunday per month. Like SJC said is is cause by both. However I think it is now mostly a religion thing. The only parties who are against having shops open on sunday are the Christian parties.

I think that in like 10 years shops are also open on sunday in the Netherlands.

 

I disagree. I think the more correct statement would be that places like Pakistan and Afghanistan have 'evolved' the peaceful religion into something violent and intolerant in order to spread their agenda. We need a reversal of this process in places like those mentioned.

 

Ok that is different in the Netherlands. The labor unions are less strong here and the Christian political parties are the strongest opposition.