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Islamic USF player: Dispute over uniform led to dismissal

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by AMS, Sep 14, 2004.

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  1. R0ckets03

    R0ckets03 Member

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    I couldn't have said it better. I mean how the hell do you even argue against that? Mother Teresa, Gandhi, Martin Luther King, etc. are all going to hell. :rolleyes:
     
  2. BrianKagy

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    What if she said the tashahhud but liked to engage in ritual anal gangbangs with circus folk? Does one outweigh the other?
     
  3. Mango

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    Sounds similar to this:

    <a HREF="http://www.brothersjudd.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/reviews.detail/book_id/788" >The Man Without a Country</a>
     
  4. gotoloveit2

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    Sad indeed. Now that was a true Muslim, a true Christian, a true Buddist, a truel Jews, and above all, a true human being who really loved and cared for his family even knowingly he would be condemned to hell. Sad indeed. What cruelty is a religion that refuses to judge a person based on one's entire lifetime. What cruelty would condemn all nonMuslims to hell indiscriminately, including many who never had a chance to get to know the religion, men, women, and children alike. What hypocrisy is a religion that claims to preach tolerance to other races and religions, yet ready to burn all nonMuslims in eternal fire. Sad indeed.
     
  5. HayesStreet

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    Right, dingus. That's the point. Its changed. The passages were removed.


    You haven't picked anything apart, junior. You've just ranted. Try reading this: Ibn Ishaq, The Life of Muhammad: A Translation of Ishaq's Sirat Rasul Allah, Translated by A. Guillaume, Oxford University Press, Oxford, England, (Re-issued in Karachi, Pakistan, 1967, 13th impression, 1998) 1955, p. 146-148.

    Ibn Ishaq was an ancient Muslim historian. One of the earliest biographers of Muhammed ["The events surrounding the Satanic Verses were documented by the four earliest biographers of Muhammad; Ibn Ishaq, Wakidi, Ibn Sa'd, and Tabari."]



    Is it true Ayisha was his step daughter? Can you say Woody Allen?
     
  6. AMS

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    your on my ignore list, thanks for giving me the opportunity to use it ass hole.
     
  7. AMS

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    as long as you have it in your heart that there is one god, and mohammad is his last messenger, you will go to heaven, BUT will be punished in hell for as many sins as you have.
     
  8. Sane

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    Actually, it says to love God because God loves you, but it also says to fear his wrath. I.E., don't act arrogant and think for one second that you are not afraid of hell, or you can bear it.

    That's definitely MY problem. I think I don't fear hell enough, which is why I don't pray and stuff.
     
  9. Sane

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    First, I'll show you're wrong by proving it wasn't removed:

    2 of the first 7 copies of the Qura'an exist today. The copies that were written back then. One in Tashkent and one somewhere in Egypt. They are identical to all other Qura'ans. Once again, you're wrong.

    Second, even if you think they changed it, there wouldn't be quotes from tpeople in there Dingus. Because, Dingus, they just copied down what the Prophet said, and therefore there are no quotes from Dawood in there, dingus.


    The only proof that those people have is that it says somewhere that Satan tried to ruin the 5 holy books, but Allah corrected them in the Qura'an.
     
  10. Sane

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    You HAVE to say the tashahud, that's a MUST.

    Whether you are sincere or not... God will decide that.
     
  11. Sane

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    Actually, to be accurate, you have a problem with moderate Muslims but you DON'T have a problem with Muslims who don't follow the Qura'an accurately.
     
  12. AMS

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    Hakeem Olajuwan, the poster child of american muslims, follows the quran 100%, and prays, and fasts, performs hajj, and if someone insulted Islam infront of him, he sure as hell would defend it too. Guess that makes him an extremist, becuase his wife covers up, and is never in the media.
     
  13. HayesStreet

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    Sigh. You're almost too naive to argue with. Copies. Get it.

    Dawood is the scholar who wrote about the issue, stupid. Not someone quoted in the Qura'an.
     
  14. bigtexxx

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    He must have had some sort of rebirth if you claim he follows the quran 100%. You must not remember his illegitimate children or his childish contract renegotiation. I'm still miffed at his greedy real estate profiteering over the Houston World Trade Center where he left that shabby eyesore for everybody to see when the Astros moved downtown. Glad he made a nice buck there, though, at the city's expense.
     
  15. AMS

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    dont think you understand, these copies are the ORIGINAL, first ones ever written, nothing else is there, these are the true words of God passed thru gabirel to mohammad.
     
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    He did, right before the championships, he claimed to have gotten closer to Islam, and is now praying 5 times a day etc etc.
     
  17. HayesStreet

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    ok.
     
  18. BrianKagy

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    Signed Jesus rookie card in mint condition is worth boocoo, man.
     
  19. MadMax

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    man, this thread just makes me sad.
     
  20. Sane

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    No, you are completely busted and you know it. Those are 2 of the seven originals.


    Also, you're quote said Dawood followed by "qura'an" with a number signifying some mythical verse in the Qura'an.


    You want me to quote the post to prove that you were wrong? because it says "Qura'an" in there. I guarantee it. If you deny it, then tell me so I can confirm it.
     
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